GhostSniper Out of Town Until Further Notice...

[(SiX)Sheixhundt]

i really like how we're three days into the ACTUAL HELP and supplies, and military having arrived and making BIg progress, and you guys are still bitching about the first 48 hrs...??

Not to mention all the logistical problems of say like ALL THE WATER, and no communication, and no power,etc...having some effect on the first 48 hrs (oh yeah and and crazed Crackheads with GUNS taking potshots at relief workers and stuff) oh and the mobbing and overturn of the first red cross relief boat, which was assaulted and looted upon landing, then SUNK.........good fucking grief.

Natural Disasters dont just fall into place and everything just works out great, and everyone gets off blame free, its a FUCKING DISASTER.... Its almost like you guys expect a problem this large to get worked out in the span of a forum post or a stitcom resolution...get real.

Bad shit is bad, bc BAD SHIT HAPPENS

[(SiX)Sheixhundt]

Also, I just saw that it showed GhostSniper as having Logged in today, if so, we all hope youre OK bro...please post when you can to fill us in..

Thoughts are with you guys.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

I'm back, and I'm alive!

Well, the coast is pretty much...well...gone.  My house, however, suffered very little damage.  I didn't even get flooded.  Guys, if you knew how close to the beach I live (CLOSE!), you would not believe that my house didn't get destroyed-flooded-demolished-etc.  I am amazed...everyone around me at the very least got 5 feet of water in their houses.  I can't explain it.

I am very lucky, however, most of the Gulf Coast of Mississippi is just plain GONE.  New Orleans is under water.  They just sent 50,000 body bags to that area (yeah, 50 THOUSAND), and they really think it might not be enough.  Deaths may end up between 80,000 to 100,000 by many estimates (this is inside information from the Dept of Homeland Security--I sell vehicles to them).  Deaths just on the MS Gulf Coast may be well over 1,000 although they have only "officially" reported less than 200.  It's really bad guys.

I drove down the beach in my F-250 diesel the day after the hurricane when we got back from Alabama and I literally didn't recognize the place I have called home for the past 19 years (I got here in 1986, when I was 13).  It is so bad...it's not even like what you are seeing on television...it's a million times worse in person.  Especially for me, because it's my HOME.

I may not be online much in the next week or two, until they get internet up at my house and at my work (both are down right now...I'm writing this from my father-in-law's computer).  I'll try to check in as much as I can over here.

I've been busy helping out with passing out food, water, ice, and generators to those less fortunate than myself.  I also started back to work today at the dealership (finally got power back there after only a week).  I have power back on at my house now, as well...just no INTERNET!

Oh, I got to see Air Force One land today...flew right over my head (my dealership is right in the flight-path of the Gulfport-Biloxi International Airport that President Bush landed at).

Well, I'll talk to you guys more soon...

-BTs_GhostSniper Out.


P.S.  Just another little bit of info I would like to say...

Here's something...let's not blame anyone and chalk it all up to an Act of God. I'm sitting in this hell-hole and we aren't blaming anyone...plenty of time for that 20 years from now when this place looks like a city again instead of Hiroshima after a really bad August 6th (that's a reference to 1945 for you guys that don't have the first clue what happened on that day).

We are all in really good spirits here...except for our idiot neighbors to the west (New Orleans), who are just...um...stupid. I mean really...who the fuck builds a city below sea level between a lake and the 3rd longest river in the world?! This is their big chance to relocate New Orleans ABOVE SEA LEVEL SOMEWHERE ELSE! Or at least just fill that place in with dirt and start all over. I do find it funny that the only part of New Orleans NOT under water is the French Quarter. I've had a lot of good times there...glad it's safe.

[DarK.]

yes, the road over lake ponchetrain closes during a hard rain.  Much less a freakin horrible hurricane like this.  GS did you drive through Mobile??  How is mobile?  I know that you should have gone through it to get home...

[BTs_GhostSniper]

yes, the road over lake ponchetrain closes during a hard rain.  Much less a freakin horrible hurricane like this.  GS did you drive through Mobile??  How is mobile?  I know that you should have gone through it to get home...

Yes, Mobile, Alabama is pretty much intact.  Lots of damage down right on the coastline, but mainly just lost power for most of the week.  I hear Dauphin Island is pretty bad.  Witnesses say that water actually rushed over the deck of the battleship USS Alabama, but it is okay, too.  All in all, damage stretched from Louisiana to Florida...one really big-ass hurricane.  It was like 5 Hurricane Camille's.

[Toxic::Joka]

I am very lucky, however, most of the Gulf Coast of Mississippi is just plain GONE.  New Orleans is under water.  They just sent 50,000 body bags to that area (yeah, 50 THOUSAND), and they really think it might not be enough.  Deaths may end up between 80,000 to 100,000 by many estimates (this is inside information from the Dept of Homeland Security--I sell vehicles to them).  Deaths just on the MS Gulf Coast may be well over 1,000 although they have only "officially" reported less than 200.  It's really bad guys.

Ouch, I was under the impression that the figure was around 1000, overall. I Guess it's much worse than I thought. Good luck with the reconstruction and all that, and watch out for looters.

["Sixhits"]

Glad you're ok. Amazed that your home is more or less intact and damage free. Someone must like you.

I have no idea why. :-)

[c| Spetsnaz.]

Good to hear from you dude, keep us posted.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

I am very lucky, however, most of the Gulf Coast of Mississippi is just plain GONE.  New Orleans is under water.  They just sent 50,000 body bags to that area (yeah, 50 THOUSAND), and they really think it might not be enough.  Deaths may end up between 80,000 to 100,000 by many estimates (this is inside information from the Dept of Homeland Security--I sell vehicles to them).  Deaths just on the MS Gulf Coast may be well over 1,000 although they have only "officially" reported less than 200.  It's really bad guys.

Ouch, I was under the impression that the figure was around 1000, overall. I Guess it's much worse than I thought. Good luck with the reconstruction and all that, and watch out for looters.

Yeah, the difference in the "official" reports versus the "actual" numbers is staggering.  I have friends at the local hospitals here that say there are well over 1,000 people in body bags being refrigerated as we speak.  And that's just here in ONE county!  I'm still not sure why they aren't reporting that...maybe they just don't want a panic down here.  Doesn't make sense to me, though.  However bad you think it is down here, however bad the media is reporting it...it is much, much worse.

[BFG]

... Um over hear the reports i've been hearing suggest the total dead could reach or exceed 10,000   ... but 80 to 100,000? surely not?

[BTs_GhostSniper]

... Um over hear the reports i've been hearing suggest the total dead could reach or exceed 10,000   ... but 80 to 100,000? surely not?

Well, take a look at the City of New Orleans on a map...a 3-D map preferably.  Now, realize that the city is BELOW sea level between a lake and the mouth of a very large river (3rd longest in the world).  Okay, got that picture?  Now fill it all up with water and don't forget that several HUNDRED THOUSAND people decided to be stupid and STAY for a Category 5 Hurricane (sure, it went down to a 4 just before it hit, but it was HUGE).  And there you have it...easily 80,000 to 100,000 dead.  We will have 5,000 to 10,000 dead just on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.  It's just unbelievable.

[KGB]

Now fill it all up with water and don't forget that several HUNDRED THOUSAND people decided to be stupid and STAY for a Category 5 Hurricane

Right, 100.000 people who were stupid to be to poor, to sick and to old to move. Get real GS.

[Civrock]

[BFG]

 im sure you didn't actually mean that GS? or is anyone in the US who who dosn't have or can't afford a car stupid?


- Re the death toll, this is all contradictory to what i've learnt, and i'm really not sure that you will see a death toll anywhere close to this.

Almost 40,000 People are still unaccounted for but its accepted that the vast majority of them have probably either survived the storm or had already left the city without informing (or having) anyone to inform about their whereabouts.
Computerized estimates have been drawn up which is double what Ray Nagrin predicted (10,000) - but a lot of people are predicting it will be far far lower.  
when the WTO was attacked initial estimates of the dead were 30/40,000 - revised then to 10,000 and in the end it was fewer than 3,000.

And i strongly suspect that some of those missing will never be traced.

[z][t-Rampage]

Sick and old people, sure, but that's maybe 5% of the people who stayed... on the TV I see thousands of people who are responsible themselves for their situation, mainly poverty. There is pretty much no unemployment, there are tons of jobs, but people are just too "stupid", and lazy, just didn't care in school, it is their own fault. Of course the hurricane isn't their fault, but they didn't have to be in this situation in the first place. Also, many people simply underestimated the hurricane, stupidly.

Don't get me wrong, I'm simply looking at it from a realistic and reasonable point of view. Of course it's a disaster. Homes and lifes of millions of people got destroyed, also of (almost) all the people who left in time.

I'm curious....This reasonable and realistic pov...do you mean that the people who dont have an education(or as you say, are too lazy - then can blame themselves for dying or staying behind?) or since new orleans has no unemployment(WHAT??)...since EVERYONE should be able to get a job, a car, gasoline to get out of town? are you saying that the ones that stayed behind, with exeption of elders and sick people - that everyone can blame themselves for staying and underestimating the storm?

[BFG]

on the TV I see thousands of people who are responsible themselves for their situation, mainly poverty. There is pretty much no unemployment, there are tons of jobs, but people are just too "stupid", and lazy, just didn't care in school, it is their own fault.

I can't quite believe what im reading. Are you honestly telling me that there is no unemployment and that these people deserve to die, or rather be left by their government to starve and die of dehydration?  Civic what your saying beggars belief, im not quite sure what to say.

Nearly 40 million Americans that live below the official poverty line, and i won't get into just how disproporunate the number of African Americans and Ethnic minorities who  make up that 40mill is.

New Orleans has one of the highest poverty rates of any of America's big cities.

[z][t-Magnetic]

I’m glad you didn’t include the word "gaschamber" in that post Civic. You might as well have.

[Civrock]

I won't even bother to justify myself or to explain my post... you totally misinterpreted it and even interpreted BS into it. Whatever, thanks.

[BFG]

I won't even bother to justify myself or to explain my post... you totally misinterpreted it and even interpreted BS into it. Whatever, thanks.

No no, please do justify yourself, and you obviously need to explain your post as for some astonishing reason it seems my self and Magnetic misunderstood when you said

There is pretty much no unemployment, there are tons of jobs, but people are just too "stupid", and lazy, just didn't care in school, it is their own fault

Although what the real 'meaning' behind this post if it wasn't saying that "poverty is no excuse for these lazy and stupid people because there are jobs and if they have ended up like this then it is their own fault" then i must just be very stupid

["Sixhits"]

This is GS's thread so I'm hesistant to respond with any more of my usual.

But it's plain factually incorrect to say that those people in NO were too stupid to leave. For one, the majority were not able to leave. No money to buy transport, too old and forgotten.

But let's just say for the sake of argument that every single victim in NO both knew the hurricane was coming and decided to stay and take it on the chin.

It is STILL the responsiblity of the Government to protect them. Just because they are idiots doesn't give the President permission to let them drown, starve, and dehydrate to death. The single most important reason why Governments exist is their duty to protect their citizens. Our Government lead by President Bush who was elected as the "I'll protect you" President failed to protect tens of thousand of people AFTER the worst natural disaster this country has ever seen.

Frankly, the only reason why Republicans talk about "don't play the blame game" or "there'll be time to assign blame later" is because the people they voted for are the one's to blame.

What Bush has taught is that we are all alone now. Our Government doesn't serve us, doesn't even serve the core constituants who votes all those Republicans in. Our Government chooses to let people die.

Regardless of WHY people are in a life threatening situation, it is the Government's job to protect them.

Bush and the Republicans refuse to protect you. They'll come up with a thousand and one excuses for WHY they refused to protect you, but they can never deny that they refused. They had the ablity. They lacked the will.