Cheating?

[Civrock]

Bingo.

[cO.libre]

He Didn't Leave, he crashed.

That's very easy to say.

Stripes, we aren't making a big fuss over this but it's more of us clearing up the rules.

Tin left in the middle of the game being the last one left.. we had him on sensor and were just about to kill him when you respawned, killed me and nade spammed nark to hell.

I, personally, don't think that is a fair move by any means because it just makes you more able to kill us after possibly seeing us moving around near your dead body, etc.

[Magnetic]

Weakspot please let me know what your geniune problem is, because this accusation is just a bunch of horseshit. We are not or have never felt the need to be bad sportsmen. I think I have seen a maximum of 4 crashes in my 400 cbs, so don’t tell me that we do it deliberately please.

Next time you feel stepped on, I suggest you ask for a replay of the round in stead of trying to make us look like cheaters in the forums. Thank you.

z][t-Magnetic

[BFG]

Is this a genuine thread asking what the BL stance on this issue is or is it a not so subtle complaint at a particular clan, or can someone please clearly state what the question/ problem is if they want a clear answer because to be honest i can't follow what is going on.

But for the record - there is no rule against nor should it be looked badly apon when a player substitutes or is substituted in a cb for whatever reason - either to bring in a more experienced player to help win the remaining rounds, a less experienced player to play some cb rounds, or to simply allow someone who has to be else where to go.

The intentional 'pretend' crashing of a player to force the restart of a round and thus then force an immediate substitute of a player is another matter, but im unclear if this is what is being suggested?

[BTs_Mysterio]

How does one determine a real crash from a "pretend" crash.

[cO.Vickedson]

This is a pretty clear problem that he's suggesting I think...

For example:

z][t is playing [.?] on Ghost Town.  Magnetic, Civic, and Tin are up against Nark, Leen, and Dark.  Magnetic charges out and kills Nark and wounds Leen before being killed by Leen in the crossfire.  Civic and Tin are left to face a wounded Leen and Dark.

Let's just say Tin is the player with the least amount of skill on this particualr map (note: I have no idea if this is true just making an example...).  He leaves GHR to simulate a crash and A Rifleman is left.  Magnetic clicks his mouse and takes the bot who is still alive left by Tin.  They, because of Mag's multi-season experience in cb's, go on to kill Leen and Dark.

That is clearly a cheat.  If Tin crashed legitimately then, although is unfortunate for [.?], is not illegal.

I'd say if it happens once it's cool, twice it warrents a discussion such as this, three times I'd call it a cheat.

This is NOT to be aimed at z][t in anyway, could be any clan.  I'm sure this has been done before and now that the issue has been raised peeps will be on the lookout for it...

Vick

[BTs_Mysterio]

I believe it would be a fair compromise to set up a system where each clan agrees on substitution players in the case of a crash, much like hosting agreements. That may solve the problem.

[Civrock]

that's not possible tho, Vick, because only players that died AFTER another teammember exited can take the bot.

[cO.Vickedson]

that's not possible tho, Vick, because only players that died AFTER another teammember exited can take the bot.

Or Tin and Civic both crash right off the bat and Mags gets 3 lives...  Hahaha!  That would be truly scary!  I'd drop my gun and beg for mercy.

It's cool though, I see your point.

But if what I described COULD be done then it would definitely be cheating.

[Civrock]

pfft, Magnetic sucks.

[.vooDoo.]

The intentional 'pretend' crashing of a player to force the restart of a round and thus then force an immediate substitute of a player is another matter, but im unclear if this is what is being suggested?

This is why I dont understand most of the DBL's rules. The rule should read.

"If a player crashes, that team plays the rest of the round one man short. After the round there should be a "setup" round and allow for him to rejoin and lag test again."

Very simple and eliminate alot of BS that could arise.

voo

p.s. If you have nothing constructive to add dont post at all. You will earn yourself a warning quickly with spike on the prowl.

[spike]

nah ill just delete em and then cackle at my computer.

[Stripes]

Tin left in the middle of the game being the last one left.. we had him on sensor and were just about to kill him when you respawned, killed me and nade spammed nark to hell.

Alright.
1) Spike Please dont delete my needed post, i was pointing out that -?leen is lying, and every Ghr player knows that, you don't cause i bet you don't know the GhR CQb Rules. but in CQB you can't take sensors, leen is saying i was on their sensor? how could i be on their sensor when sensors isnt allowed?

2) this is no flame, but im really curious. and i'm having a good point, in my view so deleting it won't work out.

3) sure it was gg's, but bullshit comin in here thinking we do such shit on purpose. but that's fine, we didnt break any rules as so if we did i wouldn't be here complaining and using your admins time.

[spike]

no one said you broke any rules, your post looked off topic to me, but maybe it wasn't. i thought your post was the one that voo was referring to when he warned about off topic responses.

[Stripes]

it's all cool, you two couldn't know. but it's actually pretty important 

[spike]

hold up, ill qoute your post

[spike]

Lmfao.. leen, you catched yourself m8. 


you had me on sensor, when it was a cqb? gj. i wonder which sensors those are.

[Stripes]

if you havnt figured out what i ment, then ill tell you more detailed. 

? and z][t played a cqb, and in a cqb battle there is no sensors/by the rules.

so how come they had me on sensor 

[z][t-Rampage]

Nark. lets end this simply.

yes you can sub a player during a cb. clans have done it against us for many seasons and we have the other way around. wether the player is more experenced doesnt matter in my book. bring'em on. as for Tin "purposely" crashing is not even worth answering and i dont think u are acusing him of that.

so..yes you can sub a player and it doesnt matter how good he is....unless rules have changed and i have missed it.

z][t - guys, leave this topic plz. Nar, if you have any questions, send me a pm.

thanx

[theweakspot]

Weakspot please let me know what your geniune problem is, because this accusation is just a bunch of horseshit. We are not or have never felt the need to be bad sportsmen. I think I have seen a maximum of 4 crashes in my 400 cbs, so don’t tell me that we do it deliberately please.

I dont know if this was actually directed toward Nark or myself.  The only clan I have ever seen do this is z][t.  I have never been in a cb and had this happen to any other clan at all.  I dont know if its done purposely or not.  im with nark, i would like the rule cleared up.