Season X: Suggested Sheep Bet solution - Your Opinion!

[z][t-Magnetic]

Believe me...u do.

[[:] Narauko]

Thnx Myst, I'm glad someone can see there is a strong agruement in there. And aren't simply looking out for their own interests instead of the communitys.

Narauko.

[BTs_Mysterio]

Don't let yourself get drawn into a argument form or they will just say your posts are not constructive and are simply negative.

[*DAMN Mauti]

Nark, a simple 3 - 1 - 0 setup only works with a sheduled ladder otherwise only the mass of cbs you play decides. Further this topic went a bit offtopic. It was never a discussion about the point system itself, it was brought up to prevent the 1, 2 clans per season that try to cheat. If these guys and gals wouldn't excist the rules would be much slimer and the sheep system wouldn't need any additional rules.

So you see we have to adapt to the behaviour of only a few clans, but it affects the complete community. If we don't and say just don't play them, people will scream for additional rules. It's a vicious circle where you can't win as long as there are these clans, and if we ban them, new one will come.

However back to the 3 - 1 - 0 setup. May if there is an interest we can introduce an additional sheduled ladder where everyone plays everyone next season. Where we have 1 big gaming day especially for this season.

bye,

Mauti

[cO.Vickedson]

However back to the 3 - 1 - 0 setup. May if there is an interest we can introduce an additional sheduled ladder where everyone plays everyone next season. Where we have 1 big gaming day especially for this season.

Funny how we keep coming back to the same solution for the same problems every season.

[*DAMN Mauti]

Indeed I feel like a robot, explaining each year that such a system would only work in a complete sheduled ladder...

[Ein]

Indeed I feel like a robot, explaining each year that such a system would only work in a complete sheduled ladder...

I thought you were a robot, Mauti.

Ein

[[:] Narauko]

Hmm, I know what your saying and understand. Are you sure we can't ban them? I just think if we want to play competivly(sp? Lazy atm) on a ladder then we should look to play like it was Professional sport. Maybe 10 years down the line online games will have sponsership deals etc I know on the old clanbase UT ladder cash prizes were given out to the winners (no u didnt have to pay anything) up to the sum of £30,000 to be shared amoungst the clan.

I didn't want a schedule as such more of a time limit to play a single game, doesn't matter on the opponent. If what i read the other day is true and the season runs over 10 weeks then perhaps a minimum of 2 cbs a week. If everyone is aware then everyone will surely be more active and the cbs will take place, the increase may even put added pressure on you guys which is a bad point and i should shut up.

Oh, Mauti how about a euro ladder? I know it would be small, perhaps a euro tourney instead. Run a US one aswell then winners go head to head. Just another random thought poping up.

It was never a discussion about the point system itself, it was brought up to prevent the 1, 2 clans per season that try to cheat.

Added thought, If there trying cheating as you say shouldn't they be banned/warned anyway? Pretty thin line with trying and cheating both as suspicious as the other.

Narauko.

[*DAMN Mauti]

Hi,

tonight we had a *DBL admin meeting and Aramarth came up with a more simple rule addition, we may should consider before introducing our previous accepted concept of 8 cbs 20 - 50 - 20 sheep bet limit.

Ara suggested that we should make the sheep bet depending on the number of players:

meaning the sheep bet limit depends on the number of players. e.g. you play a 2vs2 you can bet 20sheep at max, 3vs3 max 30 sheep, 5vs5 50sheep,.... you get the idea. The side effect of this rule would be that cbs with more players get more awarded beside the advantage that you only have to remember a number.

For Ghost Recon we suggest a mulitplier of 10 and for Raven Shield 15.

What do you think. Would you prefer this addition instead of our previous 8cbs 20 - 50 - 20 suggestion?

Please let us know asap.

Good night,

Mauti

[Aramarth]

The scalar is negotiable. I suppose my original value was a 5. That would work as follows:

3v3: 3*5 =  15 sheep maximum bet
4v4...         20
9v9...         45

The common opinion was that 5 is a bit too small a multiplier.

In addition, the final week limit (as in the 20-50-20 idea) could be in place simultaneously. That way, the final week of battles would be less likely to turn the ladder upside-down.

The side effect of this rule would be that cbs with more players get more awarded beside the advantage that you only have to remember a number

The hope is that the sheep bet scalar could be part of the script. The page shouldn't even allow a value less than one or larger than players*scalar.

More freedom to bet, ability to bet a ton without risk eliminated. Give it some thought, post your opinions!

Ara

[[:] Narauko]

I never saw it coming...it will be as close to perfect for me. 

[Malign]

OMG, do my eyes hurt after reading all these replys. only took an hour to read...(goes to doctor to get eyes checked). anyway, i am new at this whole cb for sheep thing. after all...this will be the first season that i will actually cb in im hoping. and as far as a point system, i would have to agree with Ara about having 3v3 4v4 for 5 or 10 times the amount of players on a team. whatever it may be. seems easier to understand from a noob's point of veiw. and by that, u would have to be more active in cbing to get to the top. seems fair enough for me.

[DarK.]

- No spamming in here please dark  :BFG:-

[BTs_Mysterio]

^^^^^
off-topic: who did what now?

On topic, 5 is far too low. Usually RvS CBs are only 2vs2.

[Aramarth]

On topic, 5 is far too low. Usually RvS CBs are only 2vs2.

Yup myst. Mauti's post recommends 15 for rvs.

[BTs_Mysterio]

It's hard to say, 15 may cause problems, a 10x multiplier would be the simplest. I don't think I've been in a 30 sheep 2vs2 before.

[DarK.]

BFG please remind me of what I said that was off topic...

[Civrock]

although this is off-topic again... you said something about parents of somebody and that they pay everything for this somebody. no clue who it was directed at.

[BTs_Mysterio]

So, what is going on in the admins minds right now? There's been a lot of discussion since mauti's last state of the issue post.

[Aramarth]

People are.. yknow, in their work-weeks. Classes, jobs, a bit of chasing women for the european admins... j/k

We are actually discussing it. The 'scalar' value is being debated.