Currupt?

[KoS Ultimo]

http://pages.infinit.net/noc/pentagon.swf

Just found this..... don't respond with flames, its not intended to bash our government. This video made me think alot and I thought you guys would appreciate watching it too.

Later

[*DAMN Bondo]

Hmm, it is interesting, though doesn't really fill a number of gaps.

If that wasn't the 757, where did the 757 they claimed crashed into the building go to? And I'm not clear what alternate plot they are suggesting...did they find bits of the smaller plane...if it was a missle or bomb, who launched of set it?

[bronto]

www.911uncovered.com
it's all there, undeniable evidence.

[BFG]

Im currently in shock after reading and watching those links... Im going to go watch them about 6 more times before even thinking about posting my reaction......

[l ! l Ross]

This one answers most of the questions pritty well.

http://paulboutin.weblogger.com/2002/03/14

[Supernatural Pie]

Im currently in shock after reading and watching those links... Im going to go watch them about 6 more times before even thinking about posting my reaction......

Ditto.

[spike]

So what is all of this suggesting? One can posulate theorys and compile circumstancial evidence until the cows come home but it will still amount to just that. What is the reason behind this action? Is this suggesting that the government of the United States attacked and killed over two thousand of it's own citizens in order to fight an extremely un popular way abroad, kill the good opinion which much of the world held us in, all so Haliburton can get the contract for building Iraq, and we can power our S.U.V's?


Oh, and I checked out some of the qoutes from the video and found matching ones. I was just curious.

[c| Spetsnaz.]

There are many questionable events that surround 9/11, too bad the U.S. media sold out the American people a long time ago.

[seth]

nothing new here in those conspiracy theories. But as a wise man said once : "there is no smoke without fire" ...... Another one said also " when the wise man points the moon, the idiot stares at the finger"

[KoS.Rebel]

FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME  

[KoS.Rebel]

Movie is freacky. Makes alot of good points....i let my mom watch it and she freacked out too.

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

If you have ever been to an airshow, you know the distinctive roar of a military jet and the sound and force that its thrusters emit. Needless to say, missiles make very similar sounds and it would have been very apparent to people within miles of the Pentagon that something very bad was about to happen.

As for this thing being a commuter plane, all I have to say is that a commuter plane wouldn't have been able to penetrate that far into the Pentagon nor would it have been able to shake the other side of the Pentagon as it did that morning - I was watching NBC live when Jim Miklaszewski reporting from the Pentagon when the impact happened, and the building was shaking.

[Daf One]

What the fuck?

[KoS.Rebel]

Maniac we cant do shit....

[cO.gabe]

First of all, I'd like to see a comment about the event from somebody other than a common person off the street, or a news reporter.  When they have some random john doe saying "It was a missile! And a commercial plane couldn't possibly have penetrated that deep into the pentagon", I don't find it very convincing.  If they can't get a ballistics specialist to plea their case, I'd say they don't have much of one at all.  And if it was a military jet, who is to say the government is behind it anyway?

Second, one of the questions I'd ask myself is: If the US government really did do this, were those Bin Laden videos fake? Was he lying when he admitted to being involved with the attacks?  

Or does al queda really not exist - was it invented by the US government, who then invaded Afghanistan as a cover-up?

If Al Queda really doesn't exist, then who is responsible for the dozens of terrorist attacks over the last decade, including the ones in Spain?

Wow this sounds like a huge conspiracy - For the past ten years, the US government has been attacking its own embassies, allied countries in Europe and Africa, and even its own military headquarters.

We've uncovered the biggest scandal of the century!

Oh, except for when they staged the moon landing.  

[KoS.Rebel]

Our Government has one rule, No one person knows everything. And the funny thing is, as much as we (the people) believe we know, we are COMPLETELY wrong. I can only imagine the things we dont know. We only know what we hear. Most of us have heard the saying "Believe half of what you hear and less of what you read". Who knows what the populous knows, Did Aliens land here, does terrorism exist, did we land on the moon, soo many questions, so few answers. We dont know cause most would freack out. I like my life simple so I try not thinking about it.

[c| Lone-Wolf]

I have to say that the Pentagon video was much more compelling than what Bronton (oh wow, typo, but i like it, so im going to leave it) put up.  No comment on the Pentagon video, except  

However, i do believe the twin towers were taken down by the planes crashing into them.  The site seems to fixate on one piece of evidence, that in my guesstimation would be air being put under such pressure (caused by the collapsing floors above) that it explodes out the sides of the building.  And also, if there -were- shaped charges in the building, the plane crashing into them would have, in my thinking, very thoroughly demolished them.  To get the towers collapsing, and make it look "believable" it would've had to start collapsing from the damaged area where the plane hit, an area that was doused in flaming jet fuel for almost an hour.

But, i guess thats just ruling out the "demolition charge" theory on things.  As to what Gabe said about the U.S. making up Al-Queda, well, we did, actually, kinda -train- Osama Bin Laden to fight the Soviets...so i guess you could say we did make Al-Queda...in a round about sort of way.  (That was an attempt at a little humor) now then.  FLAME ON!!

[BFG]

As to what Gabe said about the U.S. making up Al-Queda, well, we did, actually, kinda -train- Osama Bin Laden to fight the Soviets...so i guess you could say we did make Al-Queda...in a round about sort of way.?

Not the only one either... hell how about Saddam Hussain (although not actually a terrorist) or other such activities....

[bronto]

first of all, long wolf, you only found the Pentagon video so compelling because it had music and moving images. the site i put up goes through all of the pentagon attack, as well as the world trade center attacks. and i, personally, believe it. not because i'm gullible, not because i'm distrusting of the US government, but because the evidence is real. it's right in front of us, you're presented with images of sequencial demolition charges going off down the sides of the WTC towers 1, 2, and also 7. there's even a video of the owner of WTC 7 building admitting that the building had been destroyed, and watching the video you can see the same charges going off. as far as the pentagon, i'm sure it's strong, so even if it could not penetrate too far into the building, the width of the damage is just far too small to be a commercial jet. also, the hole all the way through those levels is still unexplained...i think the only thing that would have gotten that far back is a missile. and since you can see the WTC planes firing missiles into the building facades, it doesn't seem so farfetched. i know it must be a huge shock to those who trusted in their government, but there are some things that you just can't look past. this is, as far as the overwhelming amount of evidence would point out, the most fucked up thing i've ever heard of, even when i never trusted our government in the first place. the media is owned by the government, and the not only are the people of the united states, but all over the world, ass raped. of course, we'll probably never know exactly who is responsible, but it certainly was something to do with our own government.

[c| Lone-Wolf]

Bronto, dont assume to know how i think or why i think things.  Not only is it wrong, but its fairly insulting =P

And perhaps part of the reason i wasnt as convinced by the link you put up is beacause my computer doesnt have the proper stuff to run WMVs, so most of the site was a little broken animation icon =(

If someone could PM me links to get that, id be happy to go visit that site again.