Cross-Platform Gameranger

[Cobra]

grammer and spelling. Fancy that.

Yeah.  Unfortunately, you spelled "grammar" wrong.

Hmm.  So much for that.

[Ethion]

D Advocate you are hillus.  Also, this forum doesn't have a spell checker.


Oh yeah, I made a little movie about this: http://www.fanta.dk/news.asp?nid=8DBE6BDD-F386-4348-8220-A36185449746

Dude, don't try to steel my idea. It was I who made the petition, not you!

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whoops I was wrong, I thought you meant that you had done the peitition. but then it hit me, you meant that you did the flash thing.

[Ethion]

PC'ers never had to deal with change of OS, they can still play all those old games, right?

most of it.

[BTs_Mysterio]

Ethion, they are about to descend into chaos in 2006... or later when longhorn comes out they will experience the same transfer from OS9 to OSX.

[cookie]

Evill hasn't posted because he likely doesn't even care... he's got bigger things to think about than kids getting on GR with bootleg PC "clients".

[BTs_Mysterio]

I really don't think there will be waves of PC players. I do however think there will be waves of 12 year old trolls who are board off their ass and see that this is where a lot of mac people are.

[spike]

Well, then evill, or the admins will quickly ban them. Its not hard to get banned from gr, even for people who know the rules. The admins will not look kindly on 12 year old pcers spamming the b+g. Plus, it'll make the membership numbers soar, making it look like gr just got mad popular, making evill look special.

[the oNe]

Mysterio you contradict yourself.

[spike]

.....I would agree but for the lack of explanation.

[BTs_eight]

The same reason we want to play Rogue Spear. And hell, that's THREE years old...

How many games of RS any of you play now? You should be so lucky if PC players come in and bring life back to that dead ass game...

[the oNe]

eight, it is dead because almost everyone has upgraded their machines.  The new machines are X not 9, but you already knew that.

[BTs_Mysterio]

One I always said there would be waves of PC noobs, I never said what they would be doing until hat post. And you are 100% correct about the reason I stopped playing RvS. If they let G5s boot 9 I would play RS over RvS.

[spike]

Man, imagine the rs games you could play with a g5 and a broadband connection....drool

[cO.gabe]

Man, imagine the rs games you could play with a g5 and a broadband connection....drool

Heh.. yeah.  It would be like those old 68k games that look like they are going in fast motion because the computer is too fast... lol.

[Saberian 3000]

Well, the fact of the matter is that if Scott Kevill copywrited the Gameranger and since it was was based on Intellectual property he can easily prove that this is copywright infringement.  All Scott has to be able to prove is basically 4 things which shouldn't be a problem for the guy:

1.  He has to prove that Gameranger was designed for the Mac only which in this case wont be hard he can sue.
2.  That the source code was originally copied off of his design.  Again, not a hard thing to do since this is a client application he can sue.
3.  Prove that actually enough Mac users (Paying specifically) are diverted from going onto gameranger, therefore making Scott lose money from the prospect he can sue.
4.  If the PC application is sufficiently similar to his original program or therefore works in conjunction with it he can sue.

If any of these 4 reasons are proven Scott Kevill can sue for this issue.  Scott does not need to be based in the US for a lawsuit like this to take effect because intellectual property issues are not based on where you live but what the product is and what it is for.  Because it is an intellectual property case and he has copywrited it in Australia he can therefore sue anyone that breaches any of these copywright infringements weather in the US, or anywhere for that reason.   Here's how it works:

Scott has something going for him called Proper Venue, which states that he can bring suit where the cause of action ocurred or where the defendant resides that wrote the client code for the PC can be tried under the laws of that country for copywright infringement.  Or, Scott could choose to have the guy sued in Australia because he has that option.  In either event if the guy get's caught with distributing this breach of Australian copywright then Scott would have the choice of either suing him here in the US in a federal court where he is from or in Australia.  

So if I were him I would stop this as of now =)  Otherwise things could get messy for him in particular.  But then again that might be a good thing to give some money to Scott this way.  Maybe he will lower prices on premium.  

Also because he uses and calls it Gameranger client he can be sued for trademark infringement as well.  Basically the same thing implies for the issue with the copywright infringement as it does for Gameranger infringement ot I should say trademark infringement.  So, again, if you ever want to actually have a life after this I would stop now

BTW, straight from a lawyer's mouth

Saberian

[Saberian 3000]

Quote from Learn the Law:

He can also be gone after in tort.  Anyone over 7 can be named in a tort, and with a tort, even though XO may not have jack shit today, in the US these decisions are valid for 20 years, so anything he makes in the next 20 years can go to pay off the tort decision.  

Question Learn the Law?  what is the point of putting up all of these cases when most people here dont understand that.  Another point, What other way can you go after him other then tort?  Please enlighten.

Saberian

BTW Bardiel, well put

[BTs_eight]

In a case involving printer maker Lexmark and Static Control Components, the U.S. Copyright Office last year ruled that the DMCA does not prohibit reverse engineering if the intent is to make the duplicated product work with a separate computer program.


Real says its developers did not engage in reverse engineering. "What we did was not reverse engineering. ... We looked at publicly available data moving between the user and the IPod," Sean Ryan, RealNetworks' vice president of Music Services, said on the sidelines at Plug.IN.

Seems to me like Xo has a case if Scott brings him up....

[xoclipse]

Hello again everyone, i've just completed version 0.2 of the client .

Windows Screenshot: http://gameranger.sourceforge.net/gameranger-0.2-win.jpg
Windows Binary Download: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gameranger/gameranger-client-0.2-win.zip?download

Linux Screenshot: http://gameranger.sourceforge.net/gameranger-0.2-linux.jpg
Linux Binary Download: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gameranger/gameranger-client-0.2-linux.tar.gz?download

Source Code Download: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gameranger/gameranger-client-0.2-src.tar.gz?download

Changes for this version -

Fixed:
Error with list control indexes.
Crashing when pressing enter in main chat.
Fixed message of the day on linux.

New Features:
Public Lobby Chat
Private Messages
User icons
Sorted game room list by game name
Sorted user list alphabetically

["Sixhits"]

Huzzah for the Xo.

Keep it coming...

[Civrock]

xoclipse...get that this won't end good for you if you don't stop this illegal bs... you're already in serious trouble.