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« on: July 12, 2004, 10:47:49 pm »
I'm sure you've all seen this.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/11/election.day.delay/index.html

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U.S. officials have discussed the idea of postponing Election Day in the event of a terrorist attack on or about that day, a Homeland Security Department spokesman said Sunday.

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Soaries, who was appointed by President Bush, is a former New Jersey secretary of state and senior pastor of the 7,000-member First Baptist Church of Lincoln Gardens in Somerset.

Newsweek reported that Soaries expressed concern that no federal agency had the authority to postpone an election and asked Ridge to ask Congress to give his commission such power.
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Um.

Hell, they're gonna have elections in Iraq, while Republican political appointees are talking about "delaying" the Presidential election.

Here comes martial law! You heard it hear first.

I hope you gun nuts out there rise up to overthrow the dictator when it happens ... otherwise, what sort of patriots are you?

Anyway, here's the real reason they say want to pull the election: associate the Democratics with Terrorism

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What has Homeland Security officials worried is that terrorists could attempt to disrupt the election in the same way that train bombings in Madrid created unrest three days before the Spanish general election, the Homeland Security spokesman said.

Although there is no evidence that the bombings influenced the March 11 vote, socialist Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero unseated Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, whose center-right government supported the U.S.-led war in Iraq.
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Yah. Terrorist attacks = Liberals in office. Ain't that a crock? More like governments that lie and cheat end up catching the shit. And failing to protect your nation is a good reason to get tossed on your ass, asap.
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2004, 11:02:47 pm »
This is giving off the foul stench of BS by Bush again.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2004, 11:05:50 pm »
lol. The day they try to postpone election day, the supreme court will pull out its can of judicial whoop-ass - the executive branch can't move election day. The power of deciding when election day is lies with the house and senate:
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Article 2 Section 1 Clause 4: The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

Doesn't look like the deptartment of homeland security has much say.
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2004, 11:07:28 pm »
Off topic second: Just out of curiosity, why do you yanks limit the president to 2 terms?
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2004, 11:12:42 pm »
Quote from: Mysterio on July 12, 2004, 11:07:28 pm
Off topic second: Just out of curiosity, why do you yanks limit the president to 2 terms?

Because after World War II ended, the Republicans were pissed that Franklin D. Roosevelt got elected 4 times in a row.  So they limited Presidents to 2 terms.  It was kinda funny, in the late 80's there was a big movement to have that term limit overturned so that Ronald Reagan could be elected to a 3rd Term in office (he was so popular at the time it would have been another landslide).  But then the Iran-Contra thing happened and the term limit thing got dropped.
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2004, 11:13:57 pm »
If it is ture, the Venuzuela will have a better democracy than America, and that is saying alot.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2004, 11:16:03 pm »
Well, at this point it may be for the better seeing as bush could keep getting elected... Well at least until the Democrats get a real candidate.
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2004, 11:17:18 pm »
We need term limits for the senate and house also. Otherwise we get people like Strom Thurmond, Teddy Kennedy, Dick Gephart, Arlen Specter, etc etc. who are impossible to remove without nuking the capitol.
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2004, 11:18:47 pm »
I really am not seeing the advantage of term limits. If someone is so good they keep getting re-elected then why?
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2004, 11:21:10 pm »
Because they got cosy and hook up with all the special interests - the idea was not to have "professional" politicans - it was to be the "citizen politican" who would leave and go back to his job after2,  4 or 6 years.
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2004, 11:35:31 pm »
Quote from: westamastaflash on July 12, 2004, 11:05:50 pm
lol. The day they try to postpone election day, the supreme court will pull out its can of judicial whoop-ass - the executive branch can't move election day. The power of deciding when election day is lies with the house and senate:
US Constitution:
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Article 2 Section 1 Clause 4: The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

Doesn't look like the deptartment of homeland security has much say.

     "Consta-ma-tution? What's that? Oh, right, I've heard of that thing. Hell, it's just getting in our way, let's get rid of it! *wads*"

     In other words, Bush and his crew have already shown that they're willing to cheat to win the presidental election, and that they're willing to play fast and loose with the Constitution. Put the two together, and I've no doubt they'll find a way to make "delaying" the elections sound plausible.
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2004, 11:57:26 pm »
I still have to go with the prediction Osoma will be captured before election cause they already have them. Who knows, they might even stage a terror attack abortion... (hrm, I'll find another word)
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2004, 01:01:17 am »
Quote from: westamastaflash on July 12, 2004, 11:05:50 pm
lol. The day they try to postpone election day, the supreme court will pull out its can of judicial whoop-ass - the executive branch can't move election day. The power of deciding when election day is lies with the house and senate:

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Doesn't look like the deptartment of homeland security has much say.

Which is why they are trying to find ways around the Congress, as well as trying to rush legistlation through. Like theives in the night.
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2004, 01:17:12 am »
Yes, Bush does have a record of theft after that 2000 election.
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