What happened to Democracy? - Gay Marriage

[BTs_GhostSniper]

GS, reply to my real debate before picking out the only things you can reply to.

Which debate was that?  I lost track.

[BTs_Mysterio]

That you need to step back and take a look at what you are basing your beliefs on. Do you see god's signature on the bible? I don't care what people believe in (religiously) as-long as it doesn't affect politics.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

That you need to step back and take a look at what you are basing your beliefs on. Do you see god's signature on the bible? I don't care what people believe in (religiously) as-long as it doesn't affect politics.

You may change your mind on that someday when you stand before the Judgement Seat of God and have to answer for your actions.  Then it will be too late.  Just remember that I told you so.[/size]

[BTs_Mysterio]

I can answer to every action I can make and justify it. Until I see proof I don't see why I should listen. And to force your beliefs into politics is wrong.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

Until I see proof I don't see why I should listen.

It's called FAITH.  And when you finally see the proof you seek, it will be too late for you.  For it will be then that God casts you into the Lake of Fire.  It doesn't matter that you don't believe.  Your name will not be in the Lamb's Book of Life and you will therefore be condemned to Hell.

The way I see it, better safe than sorry.[/size]

[BTs_Mysterio]

The what's book? The way I see it God should give me some sign to show that he's up there and that the Bible is what he wants us to follow.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

The what's book?

The Lamb's Book of Life.  That is the book that God has in Heaven where he writes down every person who is saved in.  If your name is not found in the book, you will be cast into the Lake of Fire.[/size]

The way I see it God should give me some sign to show that he's up there and that the Bible is what he wants us to follow.

God works by Faith.  He expects you to find the word....he even sends out people to show you (churches, missionaries, etc).  If you don't find the word, especially in an area like North America where it is so readily available, it is your own fault.[/size]

[BTs_Mysterio]

I see that you must speak for god GS. The churches  are not founded by god or the priests picked by god. Proof is all I ask.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

I see that you must speak for god GS. The churches  are not founded by god or the priests picked by god. Proof is all I ask.

Well, my parents are missionaries and my wife's father is a preacher.  I was pretty much raised in church and have been going all my life.  I got saved when I was 12, and although I'm not perfect, I'm also not going to hell.  

All I can tell you is the majesty of the universe is the proof you seek.  Whatever idiot came up with the "big-bang" theory is just that, an idiot.  How can you look at the universe around you and not believe that God exists?[/size]

[BTs_Mysterio]

Very easily especially when we see solar systems forming.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

Very easily especially when we see solar systems forming.

You don't see anything forming.  You take the word of astronomers that that is what is happening.  Nothing is created without the hand of God.  And who's to say that God isn't the one forming the solar system anyway?[/size]

[Mr.Mellow]

Another thing I always found funny... People will believe an invisible bearded man in the sky controls everything in the universe, but they won't believe in atoms and molecules and such forming? Oh well. I think someday GS will tell us he's been pulling our legs, and he sure did fool us good.   If not, then please do not take offense to that statement, I meant no disrespsect.

[BTs_Mysterio]

Thank you mellow.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

Another thing I always found funny... People will believe an invisible bearded man in the sky controls everything in the universe, but they won't believe in atoms and molecules and such forming? Oh well. I think someday GS will tell us he's been pulling our legs, and he sure did fool us good.   If not, then please do not take offense to that statement, I meant no disrespsect.

No, I'm just saying that you people that think these things just "form" due to laws of nature that YOU defined, are also the people that will not believe that it is God that allows them to do that.[/size]

[BTs_Mysterio]

No GS. We didn't define the laws of nature. They defined themselves, we interpreted them and put them into words.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

No GS. We didn't define the laws of nature. They defined themselves, we interpreted them and put them into words.

Sounds to me like a bad interpretation.[/size]

[BTs_Mysterio]

You seem to be the one getting scammed GS.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

You seem to be the one getting scammed GS.

Not from my point of view.[/size]  

[Mr.Mellow]

Well, regardless of your religious beliefs, they hold no value in U.S. politics (Or shouldn't, anyhow.). There is a seperation of church and state for a reason. While I don't know if there are any religions that revolve around homosexuality, you can't outlaw homosexual marriage in the United States just because a single religion supposedly dictates that it is immoral. The U.S. has no state religion and therefore cannot be told what to do by the hardcore Christian community.

[BTs_Mysterio]

Good post mellow. Mysterio bids you all good night.