OFFICIAL BF1942 & BHD Reviews

[|MP|Nomad]

I'm sure the thumbs down icon I am sporting in this thread already gave you guys an idea of what I am going to say.  

OK ppl, I bought both these games this week and here are my reviews on it.  First, lemme give you guys my specs on my mac:

1.25 PB G4
2 GB RAM
ATI Radeon 9600 64 MB
HD @ 5400 rpm

First lets do BF1942 since its a quick one:

PROS:

-This game has a great concept of team play.  You can be in a jeep and yer clan mate driving military truck while pursuing yer enemy while yer manning the .50 cal, pretty great.  You can fly planes, drive jeeps,  drive and shoot tanks and play on yer own in FPS.  Like i said, great concept game.
-Also, I was watching TechTV last night and they had a top ten best FPS game on every platform (aside from Mac of course) and BF1942 was rated (from our gaming peers) as the best FPS (WWII) game on teh market.

CONS:

-I don't have any idea why it was rated #1, b/c I think CoD blows it right out of the water.  And CoD was rated 4th, come on!!  
-Granted that its a 3 year old game now, but the graphics stink and the sounds are disgustingly horrible.
-Peformance: not bad, just a little choppy

Now, for Black Hawk Down:

PROS:

-NONE!! DO NOT BUY IT!....unless, you have a G5 2.0, then MAYBE it will be better, but I wouldn't bet on it.

CONS:

-I can't even run it. I set my rez @ 640 x 480 (the lowest) and ALL my details/settings to LOW and I still CAN'T play it.  choppy as hell.  AND THIS IS ALL ON SP, just imagine how MP must be.
-Also, when I try the game out on Multiplayer you have to play through NovaWorld and their MP page u cant read. The type is all scrunched up, fuzzy, not legible at all. At first I thought it was b/c my rez was set to low for my mac, so I increased it to ALL the different rez settings and I still cannot read the page, where you have enter some kind of password, which by the way, the maual disappointingly doesnt even explain what it is or what to do.

Anway, you can tell I am very upset right now with Aspyr. How do they expect customers to play the game, when you cannot play it even at the lowest setting with a Mac that superseeds their minimum requirements; I mean, I just got BF1942 and I think that game sucks too with bad graphics and horrible sounds (granted that the game is 3 years old), but at least I can run the game and play it.

Rediculous.  

Take Home message: Wait for the demo and try it out, otherwise, yer wasting yer coin!  

[crypt]

You should try and get that Multiplayer for BHD to work, I bet it'll run better.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

Just send me your copy of BHD, Nomad.  I'm sure my G5 will run it just fine.  

[KoS.Rebel]

MP on BHD runs better then SP. This was one thing we noticed and could not explain during beta stages.

[|MP|Nomad]

Alright, I will try the MP game play and report back.  But I still can't even read the damn page its so rediculous.

Anyway, does anyone know where I can DL the desert Combat mod for mac?

Gemini, was kind enought to send me the .dmg but it wouldnt mount, it gave me an error saying something like it couldn't read it.  I went to desertcombat.com and in their DL section there is no Mac version.  I did a search on google, found only 2 hits says the words DC Mac mod and went there and the site did not have a link to DL it from, at least not in plain view.

Anyone know where, please post the link, thanks.

[c| Lone-Wolf]

I havnt played BHD, and as such i wont comment on it (aside from my 1Ghz, G4 laptop will not be running it)

But BF1942, as good as the teamplay -could- be, if you had a clan, it really isnt, from my perspective.

I mean, if you just join an average game, its like Unreal Tournement in the 1940's.  With absolutely -no- cooperation among team members, because nobody knows each other, typing and receiving messages in game is rediculous, and what it breaks down to is just jump in a vehicle if youre close and hope your driver doesnt suck.

Single player, as good as the individual missions may be, sucks.  This is because, lets say youre playing as the Axis powers, and you have a crushing victory at the end of every single mission.  You still end up fighting in Berlin and on Iwo Jima, even though you repelled the Allies at Omaha beach, swamped Wake Island, won the battle of Midway, and a slue of others, it doesnt make any difference as to how the game progresses.

In addition to this, the objectives for the levels are naive to the point of making me want to cry with boredom.  There are only two kinds of objectives/orders for single player.  "Head-on conquest" or "Assault, conquest"
Now, im pretty sure with just a little smidgen more of creativity the designers of the game could have come up with something better than that.  And i can bet that GhostSniper can tell us from first person experience that those are far from the only two kind of battlefield objectives youve got.

So, baring those things i just mentioned, its a great game. =P

One thing though, im not mad at Aspyr, because theyre porting the game, and even if the programmers thing its the stupidest concept in the world, they still have to adhere to the PC version of the game, so theyre kinda stuck with any flaws that are already built in.  So, whatever PC company made BF1942, sucks.

[bronto]

don't just accept the choppiness of your BHD copy. if you're above the requirements, there has to be something fucking it up. i was previously unable to get any framerate over 9 in americas army on my hurt up PC, but upon searching for graphics tweaks, i learned that i can up the amount of ram used on maps. so i checked it out and it was set to 64! i upped that by a shitload, and now the whole map loads pretty much in one go. anyway what i'm saying, there is always some obscure tweak that'll set things right. try some help boards, or looking through the file where the settings are (i dont know what these are, in pcs theyre INI files). i'll even search for you right now.

[|MP|Nomad]

don't just accept the choppiness of your BHD copy. if you're above the requirements, there has to be something fucking it up. i was previously unable to get any framerate over 9 in americas army on my hurt up PC, but upon searching for graphics tweaks, i learned that i can up the amount of ram used on maps. so i checked it out and it was set to 64! i upped that by a shitload, and now the whole map loads pretty much in one go. anyway what i'm saying, there is always some obscure tweak that'll set things right. try some help boards, or looking through the file where the settings are (i dont know what these are, in pcs theyre INI files). i'll even search for you right now.

Ok, i was thinking the same thing, but I cannot find anything.  I have no idea what to do with the INI files anyway or "how to tweak", unless its a setting that i just have to (de)select.  Besides, there is nothing in the manual that discusses this, simply pathetic.

[|MP|Nomad]

ok, I am even more pissed off.  I just tried to play MP online.  Firsst off, it takes forever (20min +) to register an account through Novaworld.com and the finally when I have my account ID and password selected and ready to go, I launched the game.

I click on MP, and again, that fucked up, scrunched up type that is totally illegible.  BUt, I can tell that there is 2 fields where you are supposed to enter in yer account ID and Password, so I did, hoping that the next page once I have gained access to the MP part of the game would show the type normal and legible.....NO LUCK!!!

I can't even read which team I'm on, which gun to pick, I can't even tell where I am on the list!!!! WHAT THE FUCK!!!  Now I am really pissed!!!  

I have 3 images that I took snap shots of, its just I don't know how to import them here to show you guys.  I found the icon for image, but how do I import them from my computer?

Anyway, I am fuming right now!!!!

[BTs_Mysterio]

I stand by every anti-BF 1942 remark I ever made on GR.

[.vooDoo.]

My PC buddy stands by the Battlefield genre. He played 1942 untill Vietnam came out and now that is all he can talk about. I will still buy 1942 and playing if for a few weeks Im sure will change your minds.

[Typhy]

I just played about 20 minutes at Monte Cassino, 64 AI's, ( 32v32 ), max graphics settings, 1152x768 resolution. My high framerates were probably around 10, my lows were probably around 2.

On a more realistic note, playing 5v5, with medium graphics settings, I get 15-25 FPS, not nearly enough to make the game fun.

Perhaps a decent game for a G5 owner, but no one else.

[daf one]

hey guys since we're on topic of ww2 games and others...I need some opinion

I'm deciding whether to purchase:
Bf1942
CoD
MoH:Deluxe Edition

All 3 are 50 dollars.

:-)

one one one

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

That means that whoever ported BF1942 did a very bad job with it. The specs for BF 1942 on a PC are P3 800mhz and a 32MB graphics card. It is a very entertaining game, but it is unfortunate that you guys can't play it in all of its glory.

[BTs_Mysterio]

Aspyr never has had the best optimization.

[crypt]

CoD

You said it, CoD is the game you will want.

[Typhy]

CoD

You said it, CoD is the game you will want.

Agreed. MOH:AA is great, SH and BT suck. However, COD is the way to go.

[BTs_Mysterio]

MoH sucks compared to CoD.

[KoS.Rebel]

Being that I kinda work for Aspyr, im gonna stand by them. First off, how the game "runs" on a mac is not the problem of Aspyr. Sure they ported, but when they recieve the game, that is what they have to work with. They arent building it from the ground up, they arent reprogramming, they are simply porting. During beta tests we sent massive amounts of emails about the framerate and they kept telling us how they would try to "tweak" the game, but that the FPS wouldnt change dramaticly due to the way it runs on a pc and the engine and programming of the game before Aspyr got to it. I do stand by the fact that i feel someone fucked up and that the games suck hard due to framerate problems, but dont automaticly blame Aspyr. Ive had chat after chat with them talking about how my gaming friends think the ports are shit due to low framerate and all they ever talk about are "what specs are their comps" and how its not their fault. I dunno who to believe but if you want to know how the game runs on my comp (Dual 867 G4, Geforce 4 Ti 128mb) before you buy then PLEASE go ahead, i will tell you how it runs on my comp. But dont come asking if it will run on urs. I dont know if it will or not but ill tell u how it runs on mine and u can compare. I still test games for Aspyr so just PM me and ill tell u what u wanna know, within reason. Oh yeah and if your debating on what game to buy between Bf1942, CoD, and BHD. I recommmed going with CoD due to its high framerate and fun gameplay.

[|MP|Nomad]

Being that I kinda work for Aspyr, im gonna stand by them. First off, how the game "runs" on a mac is not the problem of Aspyr. Sure they ported, but when they recieve the game, that is what they have to work with. They arent building it from the ground up, they arent reprogramming, they are simply porting. During beta tests we sent massive amounts of emails about the framerate and they kept telling us how they would try to "tweak" the game, but that the FPS wouldnt change dramaticly due to the way it runs on a pc and the engine and programming of the game before Aspyr got to it. I do stand by the fact that i feel someone fucked up and that the games suck hard due to framerate problems, but dont automaticly blame Aspyr. Ive had chat after chat with them talking about how my gaming friends think the ports are shit due to low framerate and all they ever talk about are "what specs are their comps" and how its not their fault. I dunno who to believe but if you want to know how the game runs on my comp (Dual 867 G4, Geforce 4 Ti 128mb) before you buy then PLEASE go ahead, i will tell you how it runs on my comp. But dont come asking if it will run on urs. I dont know if it will or not but ill tell u how it runs on mine and u can compare. I still test games for Aspyr so just PM me and ill tell u what u wanna know, within reason. Oh yeah and if your debating on what game to buy between Bf1942, CoD, and BHD. I recommmed going with CoD due to its high framerate and fun gameplay.

Rebs, I absolutely agree, CoD is the  best choice of those 3 games.  Great fun, intense, realistic, great fps and graphics to boot.

However,  I must disagree with some statements about Aspyr and BHD, just bare with me for a secoond.  

First, I absolutely respect and appreciate the work Aspyr does, I'm glad that there is at least a company out there willing to bring games over to the mac, no matter how well or bad it may run on yer mac.  I understand that they are simply porting the game and not starting from ground up.

Now, having said that, whether or not its their fault of how the game performance ends up in the end is not the issue I have.  My issue is that, Aspyr puts out system requirements out for all games, just like any gaming company.  Knowing that, why would they state one set of system requirements across the board (general) for this specific game, if they must know, since they test their games with many different machines with different specs, that some computers (in my case a PB 1.25) may not be able to handle it?

The answer, b/c they know that if they didn't, and would be more specific (ie, which macs exactly) they would lose $ from those that don't have, say dual G5's.  Well, NO SHIT!! But at least, they would retain the respect and loyalty of customers who don't have a G5, if they infact would write a warning, that the game may not run well on specific computers, buy at own risk.

Basically, I feel a little cheated out of my money.  Not b/c it runs poor, but b/c I CAN'T run it at all (meaning the game is not even somewhat playable).   Not SP or MP, oh wait! what am I saying I can't even play MP b/c of the fucked up MP screen that is totally illegible, even though my mac specs superseeds THEIR stipulated system requirements.

You have to understand "somewhat" playable means, that although you may not enjoy the luxury of 100 fps as G5 users (or whomever) may get, but at least I can run the game.  Yes, maybe the graphics have to be set to low and maybe the resolution has to be set to the lowest, but at least I can get a frame rate where I can play that type of game.  In this case, its a 1st person shooter, so the objective is to kill or be killed and if it takes 10mins to get from A to B, which would normally take 10seconds, then there is definetly something wrong here.  And, at the very least, Aspyr should issue a warning to some customers.

Rebel, do you get my point? (not asked in a criticizing way)