Glitching and camping in Adv. Games

[BTs_Mysterio]

Rev if you know the engine why can't use that knowledge to make a anti cheat mod/program to help us block it.

[Ssickboy]

Bah to whoever combined my thread... same subject but wrong discussion.

btw, this bitching about glitching whatever...is lame.

and those who continue to do it during serious games, you suck too.  

[BTs_Mysterio]

"this bitching about glitching whatever...is lame."

Are you trying to tell me that you don't want to stop glitching? You need to discuss a issue to make a point.

[c| Lone-Wolf]

Perhaps instead of re-stating the problem over and over again, we should think of ways to deal with it, not in just average games, that can be dealt with by a ban, or whatever the host deems fit.  

CBing is the problem.  Without replays, or the ability to view the other team (understandable) we are pretty much reduced to a "he said, she said" kind of thing, in which flame wars truely prosper.  So...anybody have any ideas?  I mean, its pretty easy to say "he killed me and i think he's a cheating ****, ban him"  So..unless the moderators are working on something without us knowing, mebe we should start talking more about ways to deal with it in CBs, than just saying there is a problem.

[BTs_Mysterio]

there are probably some capable people in this community. Why not encourage one of them to write a anti cheat thingy?

[crypt]

I would be glad to offer anything I can do to help.

[BTs_Mysterio]

I would be glad to offer anything I can do to help.

Yea, I'm sure we would all help to test it, just a matter of someone doing it.

[Rev 723728]

My Athena Sword project had a anti-cheat app with it. Not sure if im starting up that again but i dont have time for these things. I need to start prioritizing my time. And lameranger isnt one of em. Got other stuff going on right now.

[BTs_Mysterio]

Well, if he can't, anyone who can?

[11.Dr.5150]

Well in CB's there will be nothing we can do except get an anti-cheat mod like in RS. This would not be that hard, I don't think.

[BTs_Mysterio]

Come on.....

SOME ONE HAS TO KNOW THIS STUFF AS WELL AS REV!

I sense a person will arrive in 24hrs.

[Revelation]

Ah, ill help point you in the right direction if any time frees up on my hands.

Ut2003 has punkbuster support.
Raven Shield uses the Ut2003 engine but does not have punkbuster.
Americas Army uses the ut2003 enigine and uses punkbuster.

See if i can lead you on the right path.

[BTs_Mysterio]

Well Rev, that tells me some things, but not how to directly do it!

[spike]

So, although the thread has veered off towards cheat prevention, I have an example of camping which I would like to put out there.

So last night I'm playing on Myst's -Mp5- server, with mp5 vs. playing the prison map. I went down into the basement and got shot by typhy. So the next round I had a pretty good idea of where he was going to go. So I grabbed some c4 and placed it on the steps leading up to the green spawn. I was within the normal lines of attack, I wasn't in a remote corner of the map, and this wasnt a camp that was going to hold up the game. So typhy comes runnin' along, and of course I c4 him. Yay. Until I hear over netfone: anyone else who uses c4 gets booted. I begin to question the validity of allowing c4 and then booting for the use of it, and I get booted, and am not able to rejoin the server.

Now, I have a few problems with this.

First of all: be careful. If there's c4 allowed on the server, there's a chance that someone is going to use it, and where better than the stairs. So nade. And be careful.

Which brings me to my next point: If you don't like c4, why are you allowing it on the server? Its like a bank saying: we are going to leave the doors open, the vault open and all the safety deposit boxes wide open, but if you take anything, we'll still shoot the shit out of you. Myst stated that "c4 has other uses." So, now that I'm already booted from the server, and won't likely be playing on it again because of the additudes involved, I ask you myst: what are the other uses for c4?

[BTs_GhostSniper]

So typhy comes runnin' along, and of course I c4 him. Yay. Until I hear over netfone: anyone else who uses c4 gets booted. I begin to question the validity of allowing c4 and then booting for the use of it, and I get booted, and am not able to rejoin the server.

One thing you need to know about Typhy is that he is a stupid little cock-sucking immature arrogant asshole.  So what you say here about him doesn't surprise me in the least.  Man I hope we write code into the MGL that automatically perma-bans that little bitch.

[Typhy]

For starters, Spike, nothing personal, I just hate campers.

We didn't boot you for using the C4. We booted you for complaining about my warning for 5 minutes afterwards.

The reason that we don't have C4 restricted is because it doesn't HAVE to be used as a camper weapon.

So yes, sitting 12 feet from your spawn with C4/Claymore, whatever that thing was, is considered camping, and it's our job as server admins to do all that we can to discourage camping.

I ask you myst: what are the other uses for c4?

1.) When hitting a small room with multiple entrances, place a C4 at one door. Detonate that, it'll get the attention of the people in the room, you enter through the other door, and you catch them off guard.

2.) Place your C4 at a common sniping place, like the windows at the red insert at Prision. If at any point you take sniper fire from there, you're one click away from an easy kill.

3.) Set a block of C4 on stairs, or a hallway. If you can hear someone's footsteps following you, just run down the stairs, and detonate it. Not really practical, since you can do the same thing with a gun just as easy, but it's much funnier with C4.

Ok, there's 3 uses. Drop me a message if you want more.

One thing you need to know about Typhy is that he is a stupid little cock-sucking immature arrogant asshole.?

And one thing that you need to know about FagSniper is that he has his head so far up his ass, it's incredible he can even read his massive font, which, I might add is unquestionably to compensate for his lack of size in other areas.   [/color]

[Scrach(not logged in]

Well I see tons of people bitching and I see no one doing anything.  I would love to do something but I have no idea what I could do.

Lets get some good ideas on how to fix the problem insted of shit like "o I was on this dudes server and he was gliching and I hate that ass hole." because yes that person may be an ass hole but by knowing that he gliched insn't going to help us and just banning every asshole isn't going to work.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

he has his head so far up his ass, it's incredible he can even read his massive font, which, I might add is unquestionably to compensate for his lack of size in other areas.

Well, besides that fact that my wife has never complained....not to mention pictures of said other areas to back up my side of the story.....I don't recall you ever being able to suck on the whole thing all at once, Typhy.  So that means you either have a really small mouth, or I must just have a really big dick.

Man, it's good to have Typhy back!  lol

[Typhy]

Man, it's good to have Typhy back!  lol

Oh, and it's nice to see you too, GS, you dirty text color thief.

[spike]

Okay, those are totally legit, and I understand. I still don't think I deserved a boot, but whatever.