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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2004, 03:00:25 pm »

else they wouldn't do it - theres no rules in a war civic ! America does shit things too! it's not only the arabian world!

As ALL of u think.


and yes i know that shit shouldn't have happend!
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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2004, 03:06:37 pm »

Ugly world we live in  Sad

I would like to see a reality-tv show with those jihad fellas are put on a island a la' Battle Royale

Stripes, yes there are rules regarding wars. And even without rules, it should be common sense that you don't chop off the head of a living person.
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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2004, 04:25:01 pm »

Though it is more shocking, especially in our culture, there is no real moral difference between beheading and just shooting someone...murder is murder. In a number of cultures, Saudi (where beheading is a form of execution...more grusome but no different than our lethal injection) and Japanese/Samauri to name two. I know it is hard to watch, but to act like the beheadings are an extra level of bad is really absurd, and exactly what they want us to do.
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2004, 05:57:42 pm »

Though it is more shocking, especially in our culture, there is no real moral difference between beheading and just shooting someone...murder is murder. In a number of cultures, Saudi (where beheading is a form of execution...more grusome but no different than our lethal injection) and Japanese/Samauri to name two. I know it is hard to watch, but to act like the beheadings are an extra level of bad is really absurd, and exactly what they want us to do.

Hate to disagree with you Bucc (or is it REALLY Bondo? hmmm), but there is a BIG difference between beheading and lethal injection.  During a beheading the person is screaming in agony because they are alive and being tortured while having their head hacked off.  During lethal injection, a sedative is first injected (Sodium Pentothal) which puts the person to sleep before the lethal dose of Pavulon and Potassium chloride are injected.  It's actually a fairly painless procedure that causes death rather quickly.  So don't go there with how the two are the same.  That is total BS.

P.S.  Who's side are you on anyway?  Sounds to me like you are in support of the Terrorist Doctrine.
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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2004, 07:14:55 pm »

Bondo in the case of a lethal injection, i see at least 2 majors differences, besides what GS said:

- its legal

- the human dying is not  innocent

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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2004, 07:28:11 pm »

GS there is no sides, that bs just has to stop. stupid question to ask what side they are with.
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2004, 07:42:12 pm »

Bondo in the case of a lethal injection, i see at least 2 majors differences, besides what GS said:
- its legal
- the human dying is not  innocent

My comments regarding lethal injection and beheading were in the context of Saudi vs. US capital punishment. In Saudi Arabia, the individual being beheaded is a criminal and it is legal to behead the criminal. So those two differences are not differences at all.

The innocent comparison was between shooting someone vs. beheading them. Shooting them would be illegal and it would be an innocent person dying.

GS, you just greatly miss the point and turn to disgusting accusations that I support terrorists. Unlike you, I don't support any killing of innocents. I don't make an exception when the killing is more "humane." I condemn the terrorists killing anyone in any manner.
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2004, 08:17:59 pm »

I would say I would have to make an exception if I am an innocent being killed.  Of course I would object, but for fucks sake, shoot me.  Don't lop my head off in one lengthy and painful manner.  Shit, even suffocate me.

Besides this stupid arguement.  They are just using the means necessary to make a point, watching it just helps pass on their point.  They are willing to due pretty much whatever they deem necessary to anyone, innocent or guilty, in order for us to believe their point of view.  They could eat kids alive for all I fucking care, I still won't see anything on their insane viewpoint of the world according to religion.  Maybe then more people will realize they are just pure evil that needs to be put down in any manner possible.
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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2004, 09:21:11 pm »

These people have no morals apparently. How about shoot me then cut off my head?
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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2004, 10:58:29 pm »

I dont understand their point.....if we just pulled all of our non military personel out of Iraq and kept close tabs on our soldiers, who are they going to behead? Their own citizens? I say pull out our rebuilders and leave the soldiers. try beheading someone with a gun. PwneD
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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2004, 11:05:51 pm »

Just a reminder.  The one place in the WHOLE middle east that didn't have Al Quieda before we invaded them?



Take a good look.  Posted by the US government Nov 2001.

(from http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/terrornet/12.htm)

We wouldn't be talking about beheadings in Iraq if it wasn't for Bush's lies.
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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2004, 11:10:13 pm »

I dont understand their point.....if we just pulled all of our non military personel out of Iraq and kept close tabs on our soldiers, who are they going to behead? Their own citizens? I say pull out our rebuilders and leave the soldiers. try beheading someone with a gun. PwneD

That is a very good point Rebel...I see no reason why we cannot employ Iraqis to do the rebuilding and not Americans. Besides, they would probably not charge as much. It would certainly help the Iraqi economy and unemployment...in a more efficient way than just feeding aid in.

This is ultimately the exit strategy...keep the financial support but allow them to take charge in the manpower. Unfortunately, I don't see Bush going to it because they wouldn't want to yank the contract from Halliburton and send it to Iraqis...the American corporate interests wouldn't benefit from that.
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« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2004, 11:13:22 pm »


We wouldn't be talking about beheadings in Iraq if it wasn't for Bush's lies.
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Thats a bunch of crap. Those people shouldn't even be over there. Nick burg was going around looking for a job over there and got captured it was his own fault. Only soldiers and a few other should be in Iraq right now. It's not Disney Land in Iraq.
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« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2004, 11:16:02 pm »

Ummm... Sixhits , "Countries Where al Qaeda Has Operated"

One group out of the many terrorist groups does not make Iraq terrorist free.  I know our focus for invading was Al Qaeda, but I had to point that one out.  It is well know terrorist groups were funded and at times present in Iraq, just not specified down to Al Qaeda.

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In addition, Bondo has put forward one good point while giving me one great idea.  We should hire Osama Bin Laden's families construction company to rebuild Iraq along with other Saudi Arabian companies in the south.  Then use Iranian construction in the North.

Imagine what these fucking guys would do then. I doubt Osama would go after his own families assets, and if he attacked the Iranians, they would go super jihadi on his ass in the north.  Goddamn reconstruction idea at this point is a farce.  Use Arab construction, eliminate the civilian deaths.

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« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2004, 11:17:51 pm »


That is a very good point Rebel...I see no reason why we cannot employ Iraqis to do the rebuilding and not Americans. Besides, they would probably not charge as much. It would certainly help the Iraqi economy and unemployment...in a more efficient way than just feeding aid in.

Then how would all those private U.S. contractors like Halliburton get rich?
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« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2004, 11:29:59 pm »

Ummm... Sixhits , "Countries Where al Qaeda Has Operated"

One group out of the many terrorist groups does not make Iraq terrorist free.  I know our focus for invading was Al Qaeda, but I had to point that one out.  It is well know terrorist groups were funded and at times present in Iraq, just not specified down to Al Qaeda.

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In addition, Bondo has put forward one good point while giving me one great idea.  We should hire Osama Bin Laden's families construction company to rebuild Iraq along with other Saudi Arabian companies in the south.  Then use Iranian construction in the North.

Imagine what these fucking guys would do then. I doubt Osama would go after his own families assets, and if he attacked the Iranians, they would go super jihadi on his ass in the north.  Goddamn reconstruction idea at this point is a farce.  Use Arab construction, eliminate the civilian deaths.

- Nj to all and forward this to the necessary parties.

Big  Point of Fact.  How many times have you heard the President and Vice President and other members of the administration confabulate Al Quieda with Iraq?
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« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2004, 12:40:01 am »

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And that wont ever happen cos bush wants to make a quick buck for his big business back home...
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« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2004, 04:43:34 pm »

Surely everyone knows before they go over there, that there is terrorist activity. And if we were just to leave the soldiers in iraq you'd still see coffins coming home. US have started something noone can finish, the arguement that terrorists can't think differently. I dont condone there actions but what else can they possibly do, talk quietly on their local TV and radio, thats gonna get a whole lot of publicity.

Terrorism has been around for ages, people have been doing what they have been doing before we were alive and yet you all act shocked. I wouldn't be surprised if they do group beheadings or use a spoon to take their hearts - actually that would sicken me.

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« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2004, 05:11:39 pm »


Terrorism has been around for ages, people have been doing what they have been doing before we were alive and yet you all act shocked.

terrorism being around for a long time doesnt make its actions less disgusting. Its just that people get used to it and forget about reality: killing someone, a way or another, is just sick !
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