G5s Released

[Ross@College]

www.apple.com

New G5s Released:

Dual 1.8Ghz

Dual 2.0Ghz

Dual 2.5Ghz

New design is similar to the leaked images but not the exact same.

[BFG]

Oh baby

Yep i thought they would top out at 2.5

Youve got to love it when you see a stat table looking like this havn't you:



far far to smexy for words! I want one!!

[Ross@College]

Anyone who says they are not having trouble with heat:

"Dual 2.5GHz system include an innovative closed-loop liquid cooling system that provides a continuous flow of fluid over the processors to draw away heat quietly and efficiently."

[BFG]

Bloody inpressive. always been lookingforward to when apple would introduce liquid cooling systems.... This could well be opening up the chances of Quad processor systems in the future..

Accoring to the us applestore... my dream machine set up (well desktop and monitors) would now cost me a little under $14,000  ... hehe cool

As for graphics:
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[Mr. Lothario]

     Any idea whether these are the 90nm chips or the old style? If they're the older ones running at 2.5 GHz, that could explain the need for a liquid cooling system.

[BFG]

Looks like they are the same 90nm chips. not sure but i don't see any information suggesting otherwise.

Its amazing isn't it. Only apple could make the insides of these computers as bloody inpressive as the outside. the cooling system and the layout of the internal compontents is, forgive my geekyness, just bloody brilliant!

[Mr. Lothario]

     Yeah, I just downloaded the G5 white paper.

Physical specifications
? 58 million transistors
? 90-nanometer, silicon-on-insulator (SOI) process
? Die size:66 square millimeters

     So that answers that. Makes me wonder why they're running so hot. I'm tired and therefore dumb as a post right now, but I seem to recall part of the reason for going to a smaller process is that the resulting processors generate less heat. Is that true, or no?

     Edit: Holy god, I just happened upon this while reading the white paper: "[The G5's] 58 million transistors are connected by over 400 meters of copper wire..." My mind is officially boggled.

[BFG]

Well when you think about it theoretically youve got an extra 1Ghz going on in these comps - youve got two processors that have jumped in speed by up to 500Mhz each - thats a fair old load of extra heat... I think they probably decided that they just wanted to get them cooler and cooler - its both going to get better results out of the chips, give more space for future speed bumps and (fingers crossed) for future setups with more than 2 processors

[.vooDoo.]

The delema begins. Do I buy a 2.5ghz today or wait for WWDC and see if the 3ghz is revealed. I suppose that 2.5 to 3ghz isnt really going to be all that noticable of a difference, but it would be nice to boast that I have a 3ghz. Well, my decision will be made tonight.

[kos.viper]

You won't see a 3GHz at WWDC voods.  And from this quote it sounds like they aren't using the 90nm chip yet.

Macrumors.com

According to Boger, Apple will not meet the 3GHz promise:

When we made that prediction, we just didn't realize the challenges moving to 90 nanometer would present. It turned out to be a much bigger challenge than anyone expected.

All-in-all, no we are not getting to 3GHz anytime soon, but what we are announcing today is a very significant upgrade in performance and its something that our customers will be very happy with.

[BFG]

hehe. Never satisfied Don't hold your breath for the 3.0Ghz they arn't going to be here for a long while yet - have a quick look here it jsut about sums it up.

Not surprising really. however im lookingforward to see what happens to the G4 chip and the prospect of new monitors!

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Oh no oh no i just found this

So my G4 isn't even probably worth half of what it was a year ago... omfg i hate to think what i could scrap for it second hand now feckingfecking feckit

i guess i would do better to hold on to it and use it as a fileserver etc and as a backup machine. i wub it loads... but.....

[|MP|Nomad]

I'm confused, Loth's post explained that they are using the 90mn chips and Viper's post says they're not, are they or aren't they?

[|MP|Nomad]

The delema begins. Do I buy a 2.5ghz today or wait for WWDC and see if the 3ghz is revealed. I suppose that 2.5 to 3ghz isnt really going to be all that noticable of a difference, but it would be nice to boast that I have a 3ghz. Well, my decision will be made tonight.

Just wait and see man, what's the rush?  Besides if Apple does release the 3.0 GHz, then maybe (but not likely) the 2.5 GHz might go down in price.  

[BFG]

I'm confused, Loth's post explained that they are using the 90mn chips and Viper's post says they're not, are they or aren't they?

no vipers post dosn't say that they arn't, but just that its harder than they previously thought so things are going a little slower for them. so when at the last macworld they said "woot 3.0Ghz in the next 12 months!" they underestimated how easy that would be... now they've found its a lot harder/slower so the development on the 90mn is going to be a bit slower (hence no 3.0Ghz for a while)

[:MoD: Nomad]

Well, I just went down to the computer store, wanting to see if they will be blowing out the 1.6 G5s at reduced prices, no word yet on that. But, the guy suggested I wait till the end of the month. He has heard strong rumors from inside Apple that new G5 eMac/iMacs are on the way, not the 3Ghz G5 some are hoping for. For someone on a limited budget a G5 eMac would be great.

[crypt]

I'm gonna try to get a Dual 1.8 GHz G5 on my desk by the end of this year. Unless by then 3 GHz are close.

[Cobra]

    So that answers that. Makes me wonder why they're running so hot. I'm tired and therefore dumb as a post right now, but I seem to recall part of the reason for going to a smaller process is that the resulting processors generate less heat. Is that true, or no?

True.  I think the liquid cooling system is more of a preparation for the scaling potential of the 970FX (I'm pretty sure they could've gotten by with fans at 2.5GHz, but at higher clock speeds than that a liquid cooling solution may be required).

[BFG]

They just released iTunes 4.6 as well now with the airtunes thingy feature and other stuff which isn't mentioned! ITs been a busy old time for apple, not to mention the WWDC coming up with 10.4 !  

[.vooDoo.]

WOOOOOOt! I am about to purchase a 2.5ghz G5 with the ATI 9800FX 256mb and shipping in a few days!!!  

[seth]

nothing new in those powermacs. Basically, its a G5 overclocked by Apple .