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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2004, 11:52:33 pm »

France has been under right winged gouvernment for the last 9 years
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« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2004, 12:00:43 am »

France has been under right winged gouvernment for the last 9 years

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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2004, 12:09:18 am »

Chirac has been President in France for 9 years and his party is center-right. There have been both 'socialist' and center-right governments in power since. Right winged would be more like Front National.....
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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2004, 12:14:46 am »

extreme right is Le Pen's front national.
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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2004, 12:28:29 am »

After listening to BFG's arguements I must say he is my new best friend (not imposing that I have no friends outside of Gameranger) but I love his comment on the U.S. having no guns and no Columbine shooting and no NRA . . . . Really, what's the point in owning guns in public places, if nobody carried a gun then nobody would need a gun to protect themselves. This oh so complex theory seems to work incredibly well in many countries of Europe (even their policemen don't carry guns) So all you gun-slinging conservative "people" out their please explain to me why we have the NRA and why must we be able to carry guns everywhere (obviously not for protection)? If George Bush was so hell-bent on creating a safer America (not only from terrorism) why doesn't he make more strict gun-laws instead of passing more and more handgun laws?
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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2004, 01:35:19 am »

After listening to BFG's arguements I must say he is my new best friend (not imposing that I have no friends outside of Gameranger) but I love his comment on the U.S. having no guns and no Columbine shooting and no NRA . . . . Really, what's the point in owning guns in public places, if nobody carried a gun then nobody would need a gun to protect themselves. This oh so complex theory seems to work incredibly well in many countries of Europe (even their policemen don't carry guns) So all you gun-slinging conservative "people" out their please explain to me why we have the NRA and why must we be able to carry guns everywhere (obviously not for protection)? If George Bush was so hell-bent on creating a safer America (not only from terrorism) why doesn't he make more strict gun-laws instead of passing more and more handgun laws?

One of the things that really shocked me when I looking into gun deaths was that their isn't much to back up the claim that gun ownership leads to more gun deaths.

The availablity, in my opinion, leads to more gun deaths. But the fact remains that owning a gun is less dangerous - by the numbers - than driving. It's not like you're making yourself safer, it's just that you're not holding the proverbial gun to your head by owning one.

Which really pissed me off to find out. It was like when your AR-15 jams on the last .22. No more boom boom.
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« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2004, 01:50:14 am »

yes but countries with strict gun laws do have lower murder rates
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« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2004, 02:03:04 am »

I think that's a tertiary reason why they have lower murder rates.

I think Moore got it right when he stated in Blowing for Colombine that the reason why the US has such a high murder rate is because we are kept in a perpetual state of fear and ignorance.

He used the example of Canada, which has a high rate of gun ownership but an incredibly low level of crime. He went door to door - walking right in - and ppl didn't react the way Americans would have. And I'm Canadian (born US, claimed citizenship at 17 in Canada, possess three citizenships), by the way, and yah, Canadians are fucking laid back. I routinely shock the hell outa my family - to them I'm the right winger. I enjoy mocking their socialist country and it's tiny army as much as any American, but I do declare, they have one pleasant little country.
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« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2004, 06:01:26 am »

Oh, sorry I wasn't really talking about Bowling for Columbine I was just talking about gun laws in general.
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« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2004, 06:29:32 am »

After listening to BFG's arguements I must say he is my new best friend (not imposing that I have no friends outside of Gameranger) but I love his comment on the U.S. having no guns and no Columbine shooting and no NRA . . . . Really, what's the point in owning guns in public places, if nobody carried a gun then nobody would need a gun to protect themselves. This oh so complex theory seems to work incredibly well in many countries of Europe (even their policemen don't carry guns) So all you gun-slinging conservative "people" out their please explain to me why we have the NRA and why must we be able to carry guns everywhere (obviously not for protection)? If George Bush was so hell-bent on creating a safer America (not only from terrorism) why doesn't he make more strict gun-laws instead of passing more and more handgun laws?


But then would we not have to outlaw knives.. sence they can be used to hurt peeps... (and are much easier to use to kill peeps)... So everyone would be carring around knives wich can be conseald easier and are just as deadly... I know from my expeirance in doind security work and bouncing... gun are my least worrie... you are more likely to get cut and/or stabbed and killed then shot and killed. So if they make guns illegal.. the main public will not carrie guns.. and the guys robbing you will have one they gut illigaly.. I would rather have something to fight back with then nothing at all. They allowed peeps around here to get concealed handgun carry permits around here.. anf gun violence actualy went down where i live.
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« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2004, 11:11:15 am »

as soon as i can make enough money to support myself i will move out of this "home of the free" and go to europe were i can get my free speach restricted.

I have made the following offer to several people in the past....you are more than welcome to it as well:

I will buy your plane ticket to anywhere in the world as long as you give up your American Citizenship and never return, not even to visit.

Civic, Fancy a new room mate?
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« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2004, 01:56:23 pm »

I didn't know this doesn't apply to all states, but the death rate has risen greatly since the state of Minnesota has passed the handgun law. (Minneapolis alone has had almost twice as many deaths by handguns since the law was passed)
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« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2004, 07:34:29 pm »

i thought it would be a good idea to sum-up all the good things Double-U did to get international public attention

1- he got elected, i dont need to remind you how.

2- he and the people under his command disregards reports from the intelligence community refering to a terrorist threat against the US, wich leads to 9/11

3- he invads Afghanistan, wich was probably a good move, but the situation over there is still mitigated

4- he invads Irak, without UN approval.
 because Irak is linked to Al-Quaeda ? The commission for 9/11 concluded there is no such link.
Second reason for the invasion, WMD. Still unaccounted for.

Ben Laden still on the run...

Btw, Cheney's Halliburton is feeling the heat because of probable "deals" the government accorded to his ex company.

5- he denies the effect of the US on global warming, and thus does not sign the treaty.

6- he denies prosecution of  US citizens by an International court.

7- he almost suffocated eating a pretzel, and felt riding a bicycle.


Now feel free to add something, i probably missed some stuff.
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« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2004, 07:44:44 pm »

He's a near-fascist corporatist Rightist Fundamentalist warmonger with a serious case of the Oedipal complex (bah, spelling).

And he went AWOL during his military service.
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« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2004, 09:38:36 pm »

Now moron number 2 is finally opening his eyes !

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/07/06/iraq.main/index.html
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« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2004, 01:51:29 am »

i think it might be looking up for the world after the 04 presidential elections.... it is a good sign that blair has popped up with a lttle somthing. and i would like to remind Lee.Harvey that it is much easier to kill someone with a gun then a knife, and it is also way less personal to kill someone with a gun ( which also makes is easier.)
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« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2004, 09:18:55 pm »

http://www.jointhebushwhackers.com/

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« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2004, 05:26:51 pm »

did any of you guys notice anything weird in Bush's opponent name ?
 John Kerry has a middle name, and it starts with an "F" ...

I say we got good kharma @ work here.
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« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2004, 08:11:43 pm »

did any of you guys notice anything weird in Bush's opponent name ?
 John Kerry has a middle name, and it starts with an "F" ...

I say we got good kharma @ work here.

We're rocking the JFK, dude.
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« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2004, 08:31:32 pm »

john fuckin' kerry
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