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« on: May 13, 2004, 12:18:37 am »

Heres my delema

Today I was at the back so my freind could take out money to buy paintball, and we all had our paintball guns and one person had a black airsoft pistol.

Somebody saw me with the airsoft pistol.  I had it in my hands for about 10 seconts because my freind said put it under the seat.  2 minutes later 2 squad cars roll up and i get a fucking shotgun pointed at my head.  The tell us to all lay down spread eagle and search the car.  They take my freinds paintball guns and airsoft and i fucking get put in a cop car.  its not my fucking gun, and i was fucking hiding it so what happened, didnt happen.  So now the cop said im facing State, Federal, and bank charges.

How fucked am I

Wasnt my gun
Didnt point it anywhere
Wasnt Real

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2004, 12:44:29 am »

If you're under 18 don't worry bout it. If not contact the best lawyer in town. I got mixed up in some BS once and ended up getting charged with 7 felonies (2 counts Aggravated burglary, kidnaping, abduction, theft of a firearm ect..) and ended up only getting a 4th degree misdemeanor that got expunged from my record. I walked because my family hired the best criminal defense attorney in town, but had to shell out $8,000. If you didn't do anything wrong I wouldn't worry.
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2004, 01:02:59 am »

SK, the fact that you were able to write this post means you won't likely get in serious trouble. If they had really wanted your ass you would be in jail right now.

It seems like a big misunderstanding and I'm fairly confident that the cops will understand that. They're just playing it safe, can you imagine what would happen if they let some would-be bank robbers go and they ended up robbing another bank or even killing someone?

Just give it some time to calm down and everything will work out.

btw. how old are you and in what city/state are you in?
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2004, 01:07:57 am »

Im not pissed that they did it, because there obviously not gona take chances, im just scared bout charges and the fact that I had a Shotgun in my face and 2 fucking magnums(swear to god, six shooter magnumss) pointed at my head

Im 16 and I live in Minnesota
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2004, 04:16:54 am »

SK, they DID think ya had a gun, so that's pretty much standard police procedure. Be happy they didn't shoot ya.  Wink Glad you're all right though, and I'm sure everything will work out for the best.
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2004, 04:18:06 am »

... im just scared bout charges and the fact that I had a Shotgun in my face and 2 fucking magnums(swear to god, six shooter magnumss) pointed at my head...
didn't feel lucky, did ya, punk Cool
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2004, 08:58:01 am »

SK, what you have to understand is they were only doing their job. Interesting story for you:

Few weeks ago, some fellow local airsoft players were playing on private property ( their own ), about 100 meters from the road. Someone called 911, saying that they saw men with assaut rifles shooting at one another. Soon after, as my friend Kyle was turning a corner with his Aug, an armed policeman jumped up infront of him holding an MP5; " Drop the gun, NOW! " It took them all of 5 minutes of explaining, the police appologized, and that was the end of it.

One of the problems with airsofts is that they look like real weapons. The police did what they're trained to do.

Cops always do that "you're facing all these charges, and no matter what you say, this was your fault, and blah blah blah". Just be polite and ignore them.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2004, 04:31:12 am »

Well an officer just knocked on my door and talked to my parents and said that I am being prosocuted and the city auturny is doing shit, and the shit is going down.

Fuck this bullshit, i should go to canada.

He said "Federal charges can be upped to."

I hate this, i shoulda blasted him with paintballs...

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2004, 04:36:13 am »


I hate this, i shoulda blasted him with paintballs...



No, you shouldn't have, thing with cops, you may be able to take down one, even 2, but there's always more, blast one with paint and the others blast you with Glocks.
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2004, 04:37:00 am »

im fucking kiding
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2004, 06:01:08 am »

Try calling "the best layer in town" or even a few.  Tell him your story over the phone and maybe you'll get some good FREE legal advice.

Do you have to register these airsoft guns at all? (Proof it's not yours)

Did you give a statement?  If so how did it go?

Don't be scared by all this BS the cops are shooting at you.  Take some time to look in to it by seeking legal advice in anyway you can.  90% of arrests start off with BS claims of huge charges, fear not little one!
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2004, 07:56:41 am »

Minnesota huh? I'm from Minnesota, whereabouts are you located? And where did the incident go down? Maybe there's something I or someone I know can do to help?

Also, what exactly are you being charged with? I'm still surprised they haven't taken you into custody if they're serious about an attempted bank robbery charge.
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2004, 08:33:29 am »

I dont know how much this will help but...

couple weeks ago a bunch of kids i know where out playing airsoft out near the end of one of the roads in Juneau AK
when a guy pulled called the cops on him because he saw them with AKs and MP5 and M16s and all that.. so about 10 to 15 mins later the little swat team of Juneau pulls its ass out to the end of the road at around midnight, The cops bust out there with m14s  and Ar 15s pointed at my friends and all that... they ended up with a one of there mags getting broken and 2 confinscaded  guns for a day but it must have been scary i thought it was funny...

i know this isnt exactly the same but.... it shouldnt be that bad...
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2004, 04:56:20 pm »

Aren't there supposed to be orange tips on the end of every airsoft gun?
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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2004, 05:03:22 pm »

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Dont all kids pull them off/get rid of them so they look more realistic?
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2004, 06:05:09 pm »

Just be happy you are under 18 and got caught.  Depending on your state laws it should go fairly okay for you.  You will not escape this unscaved, but you should be able to live a long and non-jailed life for the time being.

In california, if the weapon (toy in this case) is found under your seat, it is yours.  The same goes for drugs and this is usually applied in Federal issues also. So there is no realy fighting this issue.

As for the federal charges, they most likely will be dropped or pleaded out for something really minor.  You did nothing with the weapon to endanger others or with malice, so they don't want to go after you and waste a federal prosecutors time.  Also, if you don't have a previous record (and to get away with this, you better not) they will factor this in greatly in your favor.  Chalk one up to a stupid kid getting one big life learning experience.

What you can expect is a long long probation.  This means anything that looks like a cop would have a problem with it, you better not do it.  You will also be paying some pretty hefty fines, you better learn to kiss your parents asses really well.  I don't think you would have to shell out much in terms of a lawyer.  Just call up the DA's office yourself and see what charges are being filed, actually have a parent do it.  Then ask to see if you can have a private discussion with him/her to work out some sort of plea if the charges look pretty shitty.

All in all, just be happy you are young.  I did so much stupid shit in my life time that I made sure to get done while I was not an adult. As long as it's not violent or heavy theft they dont' want to deal with you.  Call it an overburdoned system.  Dress up nice for court and put your sad face on, you are going to get yelled at pretty bad.

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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2004, 07:03:37 pm »

Nice job scaring the shit outta him Fah... lol.
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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2004, 09:28:33 pm »

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Dont all kids pull them off/get rid of them so they look more realistic?

Don't they look realistic enough?
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2004, 10:04:31 pm »

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Aren't there supposed to be orange tips on the end of every airsoft gun?

Dont all kids pull them off/get rid of them so they look more realistic?

Don't they look realistic enough?

They also have a way of giving away your posistion. Your laying in the bushes, covered in moss and branches, with nothing sticking out. . . Except the bright orange tip on your gun.

Gotta love black spray paint.
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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2004, 10:22:51 pm »

, the police appologized,

yeah right ...
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