A day in the life of a Camper....

[SiGmA_X]

No. On the back cover of Marine Sniper is say's the following:

His record has never been matched: 93 confirmed kills.

I can read just fine, but I think the book is wrong, being BlackHand say's that some sniper has over 500. I would like to see a book or a site that state's this, not tha I don't beleive you, but that is AMAZING!

[Bondo]

Well, I can understand how a non U.S. Sniper would have a higher count because other countries didn't restrict targets as much as ours.

[Black Sheep]

its preety doubtful that Vasili Zaitzev got 400 kills (in the battle of Stalingrad alone) because a whole lot of those could have been propaganda, like the story of vasili taking out the german sniper.

points:
Carlos made what i think was the longest recorded kill with a .50 BMG mounting a telescopic sight, on single fire. i cant quite remeber, i think the range was 2.5km.

Carlos crawled for 4 days across a 1000 yard field, avoiding dog patrols and making the 700 yrd kill.

also, if you want sniper quotes you should check out my pic and signature.

[SiGmA_X]

Yes, Sheep, it was with a M-2 .50-Cal, and 2500 Meter's (2.5KM).

That 4 day 'crawl' was to kill a old general of the NVA, and it was an 800 yard shot, not 700yrd. I think that the book said it was a few km he crawled, not just 1 km, but Ill check...

Sheep, what you said about that, 1st line, what do you mean by sniper taking the german guy? it sound's like "Enemy at the Gate's", no? Was that movied built around the guy's life?

[Destructo]

Rom..

I am so flattered that you think i'm the idiot of the forums....if that is the case, why are you replying to my forum post???...odd

There IS a different when you are in a tactical position during game play...then it's ok to sit and wait becasue you are in a visible covered spot to engage an enemy...I speak of the guy who for example sits on the second floor of CSL in the corner facing the stairs waiting, who has no clue ehat's going on around him..that's an example..BUT just because you are in a great tactical position does not mean you don't move...sure in real life snipers rarely move, but that is becasue they have confirmation that the place they are sniping is the most likly and or an exit/entrance of something or a very high volume of enemy traffic...but in RS you do not have confrimation. If you sit waiting it's camping...mainly becasue there is no more then an average of 6 players in an RS game...

Peace

[jn.blackhand]

I'm not saying that Hathcock wasn't a great sniper and what many would call the ffather of modern sniping.

What I am saying is that Hathcock is not the sniper with most confirmed kills. Nor does he deserve to take all the credit for modern day sniping tactics.


The Russian army in WW2 was the first to use two man sniping teams. The German army was the first to coin the position of "sniper."

While the Zaitsev vs. Thorvald battle may have not taken place (Zaitsev has neither confirmed or denied it), his kill count is legit. At least to the point where at the end of his service he got many more than Hathcock. Why?

In WW2, sniper's weren't always used on a mission to mission basis, rather they were told to go out and kill any enemies they could find.

Simo Hayha, who wasn't so much a victim of propoganda and scruntiny as Zaitsev, killed over 500 russians during the winter of 1939-1940 using only a iron sighted Mosin.

I think it was 700 yards. He also killed an entire NVA company in 5 days and suffered severe and duty retirement burns while rescuing wounded soldiers from a burning train.

Bondo, that may be true. Had the british marksman Ferguson taken a shot at the Continental officer who turned his back, George Washington would be dead.

[Grifter]

....for the record.... George Washington is dead.....

[SiGmA_X]

Dest -
?Yes, I see what you mean... If you are really sniping, there shoulnd be a problem. It's snipin, not campin, right? If you are sitting on your ass in a corrnor, its camping, if you are moving around, prepin the shot, you are sniping.
Blackhand -
?True, but accurding to that book, it was 800yrds (Page 199, paperback, edition 1986, Auther Charles Henderson, Publisher Berkley)
?It was him and his 'spotter', Burke, took out that NVA company. another thing that he was recconized for on Hill 255 was killing the 'apache'.
?He ws burned and nearly killed while he was in a convoy. He saved some other Marines, but it wasn't a train.
?I never knew that the Mosin was that old! The VC and NVa still used them in 'Nam!

[Ace]

I sniped Wrath from 940 miles away. Suck it.

[The Faus]

For the record.. ANyone who quotes passages from a book about sniping is a nerd god. Why the hell do you guys post on this forum discussing the "ethics" of camping and sniping? Fun Fun.. Go outside... It's cool I promise.


PS: Most of you don't know me and will bombard me with stupidass insults.. Keep in mind though.. I actually have a life..

[jn.blackhand]

Ace, sticking your lube tube up wrath's ass via cyber space does not count as sniping.

[SiGmA_X]

Faus, the Windowed guy who co-funded FEAR? We kno him, and he's tight. Faus, you must understand, we are talking about a book. I talk about books to my IRL friends also, and we are just discussing a book that sorta has stuff to do with the game that we all play, when we are not on our computers. And you are not the only one with a life, many of us have them also.

[Ace]

Yeah, blackhand is write, for once , it didnt count.

Blackhand writes a lot actually.

[Bondo]

Alright, this thread is dumb, I suggest the moderator's pull out the Master lock.

[jn.blackhand]

Bondo, is there a good thread anywhere on the forum?

[Bondo]

I never said there was a good thread, but most are better than this one.

[Ace]

Actually, I find this thread quite interesting. Snipers are pretty badass. You can learn a lot. Like for example, GRIFT taught blackhand that George Washington is dead. :P

[jn.blackhand]

WHAT? George Washington is DEAD? OMG!

[jn.wrath]

I cannot tell a lie.

George Washington is dead as a doornail. So is his cherry tree.