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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2004, 02:26:18 am »

I would also like to point out that i don't spend my time typing up this shit because i'm all for Kerry.  I'm sure he'll also be pushed to continue our occupation of Iraq or control there of in some way.

My motive would be the media and its appeal to the general public.  Intelligence information we see on TV comes from the white house and is presented by it'd leaders.  

Run a search and you will find many of our great minds such as political science majors, annalists, and even high ranking military members have spoke up about this matter and have also written many books on the subject.  We never see these people on TV, and when real facts come out they are rarely shown.

We love out TV's, from the pop and hip hop culture misconceptions, to the love of celebrity life, to our so called "reality" shows, to white house ideals.  Most people don't even try to look past it and alway forget that the networks sit down in conferences thinking up ways to attract the viewers, and the sad truth of this is facts don't sell.
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2004, 03:32:04 am »

Getting back to the point, Congress should *censure* the President for his role in misleading them and the American people in regards to the threat of Iraq.

Much to my dismay, there is little ground for an impeachment (tho, of course, he's broken the intent of the law (abuse of power and treason) far more than Clinton did).

A censure is a formal repremand. Much like spanking a disobeadiant child.

And for you conservative lap dogs, you may leap yip-yapping at this fact: MoveOn.org has a jaunty little form letter you can fill out, to help you contact your representative and tell them to spank Bush's naughty bottom. Partake.

http://www.moveon.org/censure/

Then, in November, we will can all dance together on his political grave. We did his Daddy's.

As for you vets out there, aren't you bothered, at least a bit, that Bush ditched service for 6 months? That he was grounded for skipping his physical? That he clearly was given an unfair advange over more qualified applicants? That he was given the privledge to service and then refused to? Whether he was AWOL or not (boy, do I hope so!) these facts alone should strike you to the core.

As for Kerry, no veteran could ever challenge his record as a true American hero. You may not like his politics, but compared to Bush, Kerry is pure fucking gold.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2004, 04:11:58 am »

I always enjoy a good below the belt, non-contextual, attack from a Rovian Talking Points Goon.

Flipper? Dude, aren't, like, in the Good Book of Republican Throw Away Lies all Dems flipper-ish?

Cutter, flipper is a dolphin.

Flipper is also G W Bush! Why do you ask?

Perhaps the impressive moves involving Steel Tarrifs give light to his flippery nature? First, really big steel tarrifs. Then, fuck you Pennslavannia. Burn bitch, buuuurn (and all because Bush was told the EU would impose their own tarrifs, in swing states, just in time for the big elections!) Flip!

Or, indeed, his clam before being selected by court that he would run "a humble foreign policy?" Fliiiiiipper! Here boy!

And that tough guy image ... oh so tasty! But when it came to Korea, Bush went for the jugalar - and then went to the table. Pussy licking flipper boy!

Mission Accomplished? Not really! Though it once was. Remember the landing? The spontaniously hung and perfectly placed banner, the one Bush and Rove's cronies had nothing to do with? Mission Accomplished? Well, not really. Apparently we didn't accomplish the mission we just ceased major combat operations. Back flip. Badly landed. Crouch overly padded by gentle, supple, young Republican hands.

The turkey in Iraq on Thanksgiving? At first he was there feeding the troops and then we find out the turkey was fake. Flip, flip.

How about the kicker? WMD. The imminant threat of WMDs. The stocks of viral agents in Saddams butt - we knew where they were. In fact, we knew exactly how many there were and that only 10% were in Saddam's ass. The rest, it seemed, were in Cheny's (the robot demi-god of neo-fascists everywhere) and the Office of Special Opperations (better know as frauds and cherry pickers). Of course, now Bush says there were no WMDs. There were some really evil thoughts, tho. Flipper, mc-flip-flippero!

What's odd it the fucker keeps lying about it even after the baby went down the drain with the bath water.

But I'll give Bush this: All politicians flip.

It's just that most don't flip like he does (he flips around the truth).

Kerry has "flipped" or, perchance, changed his mind after once having it set (wouldn't this be a more fair way of describing it, Mr. Rovian Talking Points Goon?). But I hardly see his voting record as political juice.

As for the Bones. I hate that almost every President we've had has been a member of a secret society. Really, go take a look. What sucks is that powerful people like to hang with other powerful people, and they send their powerful kids to powerful schools to join powerful clubs with really silly orientations. Like when Bush had to take it up the ass from a porcupine for Bones. Luckily, that practice ended before Kerry joined, so all he had to do was watch bad porn and drink shitty beer. Perhaps that's why Bush is so up on the new "Hate Amendment" - the bashing gays thing.

Even Kerry's conservative approach to the issue - civil unions rather than civil marriages - is off putting. But Bush's astounding efforts to wag the dog by leaking he's gonna support putting hate back into the American constitution is - oh how do I put it so the Rovian Talking Points Goon gets it? - Clintonesqe.

Dirty, dirty Bush is becoming more and more like Clinton everyday. Why don't you show your hate along with him and repeal the Civil Rights Act while you're at it, Mr. Rovian Talking Points Goon?

And all the Big-C had to hide was his dick being in some worthless skank. Bush has to hide that he fled from duty in '72 (either due to coke, politics, or irresponsiblity) while currently claiming he's a war president. What's really irksome is that we spent a fucking million bucks training that bastard Bush and he fucking went and skipped the physical and got perma-grounded for it. That's a million bucks on a privledged asshole wasted. I bet there are a few thousand dead guys in 'nam who'd gladly have serviced duty in the NG.

Oh Cutter, how the dirty Rovian Talking Points Goon has fallen!

i hear your whining and i feel your pain, but the man your trying to replace bush with will only make you whine more when you realize who you just voted for. john kerry, flipper as i like to call him, here's a couple reasons why:

at the end of the Cold War, Kerry advocated scaling back the CIA, but after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, he complained about a lack of intelligence capability.

In the 1980s, he opposed the death penalty for terrorists who killed Americans abroad, but he now supports the death penalty for terrorist acts.

In the 1990s, he joined with Republican colleagues to sponsor proposals to end tenure for public schoolteachers and allow direct grants to religion-based charities, measures that many Democratic groups opposed. In 1997, he voted to require elderly people with higher incomes to pay a larger share of Medicare premiums.

He opposed the 1991 war in iraq, a war in which even france thought was worth getting into.

He voted for the current war in iraq. Now claims he was fooled into voting for it. LOL

He voted against the $87 billion to support our efforts in iraq and afghanastan, most of which goes to the american soldiers. as a veteran of vietnam you'd think he'd know when the polititians should stay out of the fight and let the soldiers do their job. the vietnam vets i know say one of,  if not the biggest problems with vietnam, was that washington wouldn't give the military what it needed to win the war once they were sent in.

He supported NAFTA, now doesn't.

not that it matters to me, but for all the liberal voters that want to know, he opposes gay marriges, but supports civil unions.

special interest donations, they all take them, but some claim not to. kerry has vowed he will not take donations from these "special interest groups" however the records show otherwise in mr. kerry's case. if you plan on voting for kerry i strongly suggest you take the time to read the following links....  

http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20040207-101902-1785r.htm

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/2/2/134509.shtml

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20040130-9999_1n30kerry.html

http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/WorldNewsTonight/kerry_fundraising_040209-1.html

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=134

last but not least if you want bush out of office why in the hell would you vote for kerry? ever heard of the skull and bones? if not look it up you may be shocked to hear who else is and has been a member of this eliteist group of people throughout history.

before putting all your energy and efforts into gettin bush out of office take a very close look at the man you might replace him with.
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2004, 04:56:41 am »

kid all you've done is taken the bait. that and wasted another 20 minutes of your young life repeating the same thing you do in every post you make. bush this, bush that whaa whaa whaa. thanks for the entertainment though.

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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2004, 06:00:50 am »

kid all you've done is taken the bait. that and wasted another 20 minutes of your young life repeating the same thing you do in every post you make. bush this, bush that whaa whaa whaa. thanks for the entertainment though.



Ahh and here we have good old cutter, never offering a debatable point, just criticism.
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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2004, 06:42:29 am »

you got me doc. you're right, not one debatable point yet. criticism you say? nothing but. i should be ashamed of myself.
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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2004, 08:47:46 am »

Oh, for thou art wounded, Dirty Rovian Talking Points Goon!

Harsh be the words of Liberals, with thar Counter-Arguments, Painful Truthes and Comediac reproach! Damn them and their wives! May they have Rightist Neo Fascists for Children! Woe! Woe on the Evil Liberal! Mine attacks on his Champions make me feel strong! And my insults make me feel like a bigger man than I am!

I hate the Liberal for he hath dared to speakth!

Speakth, like a free man.

Now we can all laugh an make up. Kisses, Cutter!

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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2004, 09:29:14 am »

Man this thread got really retarded since I last posted. Way to stink it up guys.
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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2004, 10:05:34 am »

Man this thread got really retarded since I last posted. Way to stink it up guys.

Heh, you know it's a bad thread if tasty's was one of the good posts. :P
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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2004, 06:06:21 pm »

see now thats a shame sixhits, you went from making good political points in your posts to flaming me (again). in a gay sort of fairy talking way at that. dirty rovian goon i am huh? either you don't read my posts or your head was stuck in a vat of acne cream while you typed your last two posts. i am not a registered republican, i infact voted for clinton in his last term and for nader in the last election. rovian you were sayin? i'm much more liberal then you could know. i choose not to bash the president every chance i get and whine all day about the man like most of the people here. thus i am in the minority. so feel big six, feel your power. because it won't last past your next face peel and the next election.
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« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2004, 09:35:37 pm »

Man this thread got really retarded since I last posted. Way to stink it up guys.

I have to disagree Tasty, it was stupid right from the start.  Ssick had a good point about censure and maybe there should be higher standards, but it got lost in the muck.  The rest of this is just the same crap arguments that could have happened when Clinton was going through the impeachment process, just change the names and flip sides.  Just goes to prove the point, the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans when it comes to this shit.  They both whine, they both pull this kind of crap.

The bottom line is simple.  We have a 4 year term so that we can get rid of a schmuck like this if he screws up.  This would be plenty if the average person wasn't such an asshole.

You see, Bush will get an automatic nod from the Republicans - because that's the way they are.  It doesn't matter that there are better Republicans for the job *cough*Powell*cough*, they are assholes and will follow their own rules in this.

The Democrats will urge you to vote for Kerry, not because he's better, but just to get Bush out.  Which makes them assholes too.  I could go on and on, but we've talked about them enough.

Democrats, Republicans, and many so called indipendants will tell you that if you vote third party, you are just throwing your vote away, which makes them assholes along with anyone that listens to them.

And then there are millions of others out there that wont vote at all, which makes them the biggest assholes of all.
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« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2004, 09:52:39 pm »

see now thats a shame sixhits, you went from making good political points in your posts to flaming me (again). in a gay sort of fairy talking way at that. dirty rovian goon i am huh? either you don't read my posts or your head was stuck in a vat of acne cream while you typed your last two posts.

You accuse sixhits of flaming you, yet you come right back at him with another insult.  If its such a shame, why are you now playing the same game he is?
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« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2004, 10:10:08 pm »

And then there are millions of others out there that wont vote at all, which makes them the biggest assholes of all.

Exactly Bucc.  If you don't vote you shouldn't have a right to complain about how bad something you don't like is.  Kinda reminds me of non-premiums in GameRanger bitching all the time.
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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2004, 12:37:45 am »

You actually expect a Petition on the net to have any political effect at all? How naive.
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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2004, 01:35:37 am »

You guys/this community is the worst bucha pessimists i've ever read...why dont we all just not even pay attention to the world or our country, and just let or who ever makes the decisions to do what they what.  I mean shit, what can we do about it?  Bitch on a gaming forum...no hope there or anywhere on the internet for that matter.  Why dont we just say "fuck you" to the news, hell they dont care, their fuckin us already.

So go back to your meaningful lives and forget about this waste of time thread, or any political thread on here for that matter, there is nothing you can do about it, we're fucked, all fucked.  Might as well hide in your house and block out the bad things in life so you might have some fun before you die.
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2004, 01:40:54 am »

No, after clicking on the link in your signature, I have to now disregard anything else you post here.

However, you probably have a friend for life with Dest.

MX6 the w00t.  POLEEEEZZEE!
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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2004, 01:58:57 am »

Right ok, so your going to disregard anything i post based on the fact that i wOOt and like to work on cars....right ok, good point, your so right, i'm going to trash my car tonight and never wOOt again.  WTF is that Bucc, your what? 35?  How can you be so narrow minded and quick to judge others based on their covers.
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2004, 02:36:33 am »

Dr No, who pissed in your cocoa puffs this morning.  Take a fucking joke.
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2004, 03:33:09 am »

I admit, it was me, I did it. I pissed in his coco puffs.
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« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2004, 08:55:24 pm »

I have to disagree with the biggest percentage of you here. I am a Republican, I have 100% Support for President George Bush. He is doing an awesome job in Iraq. Sure you all think "yeah great job, that's why we're attacked daily by terrorist attacks there in baghdad" but ill let you know one thing, where the Hell in this world in a War like this would you not have terrorist attacks? HELLO?Huh? WE ARE FIGHTING TERRORISTS HERE. This is their technique of fighting. It is the only way they know, like they could ever fight a real war with us normally? fuck no. Look what we have done so far, We liberated Iraq, made it alotsafer then it was in the past years. Restored most of it's freedom. Got rid of Saddam Hussain (Coward). People thought in that country that he would go down fighting, LOL! the "so called big god of Iraq" hid in a little hole in the floor of a house for so long! You people against the war in Iraq, I want you to just sit back, and really think down deep in your mind one thing. That is, So what if we didnt go in Iraq? So what if we didnt even bother Afghanistan? hmm.. there would most likely have been another Attack on America already, but! we have went into afgan, and iraq. We raised our homeland security level. Have they attacked? nope. and think of another thing, "The People of Iraq and Afghanistan". Most of them were happy to see us come ino their worlds and aid them to a new Freedom. Sure some didnt like us but is everyone going to love each other for all eternity? no, there's always gonna be some faceless assmonger in some country that will hate america for, all it's power, or it's freedom. And the bit that someone said "our soldiers killing innocent families in iraq", Dude I think you personally should be shot for saying something like that. I NOT only have a "BEST FRIEND" in Iraq right now with the 3rd Infantry Division, But I also have a brother that's in the 173rd Airborne Division in Iraq right now, and Yes they are both in bagfhdad, they have seen alot of action, they dont kill babies, they dont kill innocent people. We are not faceless terrorists over there you asshole. Get your shit right. In What war will there not be civilian casualties? NO WAR! DUH!. In every war there will be a few here and there, it can't be helped. Just think, if we had wars like WW1 and 2 ? or Korea? or Nam? there were lots of more deaths in those wars then now. Just think of all what i said. Some of you will bash me but, those of you that do, can go to hell you faceless liberals. But those that support me, I see alot of good future ahead of them.
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