Why is it so easy?

[Bondo]

I am far happier on MaG then I was on GamerAnger.

Where Rom is joined by the rest of the GR outcasts.

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

All i know is that i went on mag the other day and it was full of the outcast GR members and other fags. I mean, what i saw was  GR permabanned and Asterax with 5 different accounts, go figure. MaG will die shortly if it doesnt pick up the slack.

[**SBR** Peekay]

Peekay, being bored out of his mind, not wanting to do his essay on how Phineas, Leper, and Gene survived or perished in the symbolic world of experience, from which Adan and Eve picked the apple from the tree of knowledge of good and evill, would like to say that something....but he forgot...Oh yea....MaG is fun when it comes to WC2, w/ the tourneys going on and stuff, but otherwise pretty bad.

Peekay

(And yes, I'm trying to get more posts in so I can get more pretty stars)

[SiGmA_X]

Asterax had 'ghosts' left in MaG. This is a beta bug that leaves a 'ghost' of you when you are either booted, or drop offline (unplug CM).

I really like MaG better because it has OS X support, unlike GamerAnger.

[jn.blackhand]

Rom, leave the forums. They're for GR users and Mod Makers. You're neither.

[kos.viper]

I have a static IP, and a iMac, so I only have one MAC Address, and it's kind of hard to change it...

Rom ur a dumbass... GR cant ban a MAC Address, wtf is wrong w/ u... when Evill or one of his many admins bans people, they ban their IP, not the MAC address... MAC addresses r used for LAN, WAN, and MAN....

MAC Address - Standardized data link layer address that is required for every port or device that connects to a LAN. Other devices in the network use these addresses to locate specific ports in the network and to create and update routing tables and data structures.

[jn.wrath]

Viper, I could say the same of you.

When you are banned, you are banned by your IP address and your MAC address. A MAC address is like an IP for a piece of hardware (according to your definition).

[Grifter]

Viper,
without pulling the source for GR, we can't know exactly what Evil uses to ban people.  I'm pretty sure he uses more then just IP for his permabans (afterall... just hanging up and redialing for the 56k'ers would create a new IP).  Even if he banned a block of IP's.... people banned would still be getting around it more often.  

So, could he ban by MAC address... yes, he could.  Does he... I don't know.  The thing people don't really talk about is that there is a world of information that the GR client app could be pulling and transmitting back to the GR servers when you log on (you know, something Microsoft got in trouble before most of the people here touched a keyboard).  He could do it with just a couple invisible files on your HD.  He could do so many different things, in combo's.  It's all in what he wanted to code in, and how pissed he is....

General theory is that he uses a combo of IP and MAC address.  The only real way to know would be to packet sniff what was being sent when you log into GR... and then decrypt it if he thought to encrypt it.  Between seeing what info is being sent and knowing what info is shared through normal TCP/IP connections..... one couold figure it out.

No matter what he does, there are ways around it.... if you are smart enough and want to spend the time and/or money needed.  I'm not going to give out the instructions.... I came close to doing it once, and I'd regrett it.  But all the clues are here if you know what to look for.  Then again, if you are smart enough to do it, you probably are smart enough never to get banned in the first place.

[**SBR** Peekay]

Grift, couldn't agree w/ you more.  I've also heard some rumors of undeletable write-only memory blocks.  But I'm not really believing in it.  A possibility.  You could possibly also use virex snapshot b4 and after you install/log-into GR to see what files were added, it could be helpful.

Peekay

[Grifter]

Peekay,
did you finally go read a book??

Actually, I wouldn't go looking at sector snapshots of a HD until I checked out the packet sniffing...  there's way too much going on with the HD to know.

As for undeleteable, write only memory blocks... not on a HD.  That's how DirectTV did hash a bunch of SmartCards that were pulling down steal-a-vision.  The wrote to the WORM (write once read many) boot sector of the SmartCard.  Hard Drives don't have WORM on them.  That said, viri that attack the boot sector of a HD could screw it up and make it act that way.... which is why you never screw with the boot sector of you HD.

[SiGmA_X]

Trust me, it's the MAC and IP. I swiched IP's on my iMac, just to test, and I am now banned on that one also Oh well. And these Forum's are PUBLIC, for RS/R6 gamers, which I still am. I will be playing some games this weekend, on my friends G4 ... Quite happy. But, this 'fix' only lasts a night, then I am back on the iShit...

[Grifter]

For those of you not paying attention....   If he had the GR client app write an invisible file... or if he's having the GR client app send him any other piece of information that identifies your computer as belonging to a dumbass (sorry, someone banned).... it doesn't have to be the MAC address.

The difference here is I said *I THINK* he uses the IP and MAC address... not that *I KNOW*.  There are so many ways to do what he did, without looking at the code, or having to spend the time to figure it out (by getting banned myself), there's no way for me to really know.

If it were the IP and MAC address only, you could test it out within 30 mins, 1 phone call and $8 - $200 (depending on your solution, any combo of these)

[SiGmA_X]

Oh well. I am really quite sure that it's a MAC/IP ban... I might be wrong, but I think not.

[**SBR** NiXon]

Bah kids thease days

[Asterax]

Your ass is grass Assassin, (when you talk about me or MaG, no one else) how about you go fuck yourself, and get the hell out of my affairs first of all. The reason I had all these "ghosts" is due to the fact I am lacking RAM. MaG had nothing to do with it, secondly regardless if you realize, MaG will not die. This isn't a threat against GR, GS or any other Mac Gaming Service you use, its a fact. As much as a detest to hear MaG respects all Mac Gaming Services. It has a very successful future and you have to remember in your pea-sized brain is that MaG is a BETA. This means: bugs, errors, and crashes are possible and likely. Assassin go back to your Forum section and stop commenting about stuff you don't know shit about.

-Asterax