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« on: January 28, 2004, 04:26:40 pm »
Virginia tech has decided to replace the tower G5's with Xserve G5's.
The storage space for the cluster is now 280m2 but will be decreased to 92m2. This means more space to put more processors >>> more power!
VT will prolly aim for the second spot on the supercomputer list!

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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2004, 05:09:32 pm »
Wasn't this news released like a week ago?
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2004, 06:13:16 pm »
Sort off... its just more official now...

Apparently there is quite a substantial interest in the VT Super Comp set up. A few agencies including Nasa and FBI are apparently interested in buying the VT 'Kit' used to build the comp....

It can't be anything less than more great damn news for apple though Cheesy  top spot No.2 here we come
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2004, 06:55:20 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2004, 10:56:01 pm »
its the third biggest in thee world and they only spent 5mill shit. Shocked
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2004, 01:07:42 am »
Unbelievable isn't it.. i belive the exact(ish) cost was 5.2 Million US Dollars... not bad at all when u consider the 2 comps that beat it... not bad at all
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2004, 05:43:54 am »
This is actually almost month old news.  They talked about this at Macworld.  Don't know why some news services are just picking it up now.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2004, 05:55:17 am »
Holy hell, just 5.2 million (7 according to the article, but who's counting!?) compared to the 200 million of the two leading computers?! Thats insane!! Anybody know the comparison between the Virginia Tech computer (to be) and the current top two? In terms of computing power.  
EX: If the Virginia Tech one is just a bit behind those two in terms of computing power, but over 100 times cheaper...i think Apple might be getting alot of orders in the future.  Or, they hopefully will.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2004, 12:00:10 pm »
Yep these are the figures as im aware Grin you might want to sit down to read these though if your currently stood up!  Shocked

the Top spot is held by Earth simulator in Japan

Earth Simulator 35.86 Terraflops     Cost: 350 Million US Dollars
Los Alamos Lab  13.88 Terraflops     Cost: 215 Million US Dollars
Virgina Tech       10.28 Terraflops     Cost: 5.2  Million US Dollars

so by a mile and a freaking half you get shit loads more for you buck. Its so much cheaper its almost stupid. just doubling the size of VT's SC would cost a total 10.4mill... and they could be hitting near on 20Terraflops - and thats a very very firm 2nd place!  
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2004, 01:16:08 pm »
imagine using it for gaming...aaahhh *drools*
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2004, 03:56:38 pm »
The installation has been up and running for a few months, but the swapping of G5s for Xserve servers will shrink the size of the installation. ?We'll cut the space used by a factor of three,? said Lynn Nystrom, university spokesperson. ?We'll go from 3,000 square feet to 1,000 square feet.?

What a geeky way to say that.
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2004, 08:21:41 pm »
lol... well come on you'd feel a bit geeky if you had that as your desktop Wink  
A third the size.. Surely it only makes sense to fill all that space up with extra Xserves.. that would defianatly put them close to top spot.. hell if they really did do that i think they would hit over 30Terrabytes!! omg
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2004, 09:21:48 pm »
If they filled up the extra 2000 square feet of space they now have open (once the new Xserve's are in place) that would put Virginia Tech behind Japan's Earth Simulator by about .3 terraflops, for 15.6 million dollars total, which is 16 times cheaper than the Earth Sim.  

So, imagine what you would get, if the people who own the Japan Earth Simulator, had all that cash now, and instead of buying their existing system, bought 16 of these fully loaded Virginia Tech Xserve style super computers....thats like...576 Terraflops, for almost the exact same price.  I feel faint.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2004, 12:03:23 am »
And Virgina tech apparently want to build a second on and have it up and running by 2006! Its gonna be the daddy!
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2004, 02:12:59 pm »
The sad thing about these machines falling into Hokie hands is they dont have the mental capacity to use them. Anybody going to Tech from the region must have been passed up by Georgetown, VIRIGINIA, or William and Mary.
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2004, 06:50:38 pm »
Exept its usage probably will be not predominatly by VT students... I can imagine the Uni making a lot of cash 'letting out' the supercomputer to companies and research faculties needign that bit of technical ooomph Wink
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2004, 09:37:59 am »
Quote from: c| Lone-Wolf on January 29, 2004, 09:21:48 pm
If they filled up the extra 2000 square feet of space they now have open (once the new Xserve's are in place) that would put Virginia Tech behind Japan's Earth Simulator by about .3 terraflops, for 15.6 million dollars total, which is 16 times cheaper than the Earth Sim.  

So, imagine what you would get, if the people who own the Japan Earth Simulator, had all that cash now, and instead of buying their existing system, bought 16 of these fully loaded Virginia Tech Xserve style super computers....thats like...576 Terraflops, for almost the exact same price.  I feel faint.

Surely there is some roof how powerful clustered powermacs can get, a bottleneck somewhere which the earth simulator dosen't have...
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2004, 04:36:41 pm »
I think it should be fairly easy to get past a problem like that, you just have to be a bit inventive.
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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2004, 05:08:19 pm »
Quote from: kami on February 02, 2004, 04:36:41 pm
I think it should be fairly easy to get past a problem like that, you just have to be a bit inventive.

To me...that sounds impossible, although i might be wrong.

So if they added lets say... what was that number... 16 x 1100 G5's...hmmm i need a goddamn supercomputer to count this.... If they put together 17600 G5's it would be 16 times as powerful as it is now...? Or lets say 100.000 G5's what about then?

I havent really got into the whole VT cluster thing, and im no expert at LAN either but...isnt gigabit lan the fastest cable to connect computers together?...sounds like a bottleneck to me
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2004, 07:00:42 pm »
I suppose it all depends how it works... Im no expert on this an i know little about the VT setup but im guessing that really there shouln't be bottleneck issues over the switches as the nodes are only using these to move the results of information... all the work is still sitting on the processors on each node, only the 'question and answer' is traveling over the network...

Im not sure ive just said what im thinking... its allworked out up top but its been a bloody long day and i can't think.. someone please explain what i think i mean?
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