Does anyone know Evil's email?

[cO.Vickedson]

I got banned for 2 days and don't know why...

any help?

I'm premium, I paid for that shit, I would like any explanation.

[|MP|Buccaneer]

support@gameranger.com

[cO.Vickedson]

thanks Bucc

[BFG]

let us know when u get a responce wicked, from previouse experience i've found that support@gameranger has a just a 'slight' waiting time for a reply... And it would be interesting to hear what the reason for the ban was!

[Saberian 3000]

lol, slight?!?  hehe.  How about never heh.  Or maybe we arent special enough to have the honor of a reply  I think it's an anti-clan thing heh.  Sad to say I have gotten a faster response out of Aspyr then I ever got out of scott, which was almost never

:MoD:Saberian

[Acri]

I get instant replies when I mail Kevill. VIP mb?

heh, no all you have to do is use clean language and formulate it well to show that you are not some random lamer. I got permabanned but I was back in the next day. That's a fast reply.

[PLOPje]

He I bet he replies faster when you give him 50$

[BFG]

I wish.... Although It won't be happening again.

[Noto]

Wick, he has a ton of auto ban script stuff working when he and his lackey's are not around.  I was joking around one day and sent a porn link to Diesel in a private message.  It was funny for us because the front page looked like a certain person's wife in our clan.  It was a harmless joke and it was in a private to someone on my buddy list.  I was banned for only 30 minutes.  I was banned for spamming a couple of weeks ago as well.  I think it was also a 30 minute ban.  Evidently, I was typing too much in the main chat area.  Next thing I know, I realized I was talking to myself and I couldn't host chat rooms or games.  I understand why some of the banning scripts need to be there, but I would appreciate a better explanation for why I was banned.  You probably said something in the main chat pertaining to warez or porn, or perhaps in a private message to someone.  Anything could have happened.

.::|N| Noto

[cO.Vickedson]

I was banned initially for 30 minutes, then later turned into 2 days......*currently serving*

A private conversation between myself and a fellow clan member had been logged and was sent back to me.

I won't tell what the conversation entailed, but I'm sure you guys can figure it out.  

Evill responded in a civil manner and now I'm taking my "punishment".  I thought a warning before a ban might have been more appropriate, I mean seriously, I gave the guy $50 because I supported his system...

oh well

Wick

[Jeb]

Heh there is one mentally deficient admin as some of you know, aka deano
Yesterday fassst was impersonating owing (he didn't care) as a joke and he got a ban.
So i began my usual spree of tearing into the admins (evill gets it the worst) to try to see if i'll get banned. Anyhow i managed to pull a 30minute ban only after 2 disconnects. And i was saying some pretty terrible things, all i can say is that it sucks to be you wickedson. Good luck finding out what you got banned for.

[Civrock]

check this out: http://www.the-one-clan.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40

[Noto]

Well, I think we can all agree that GameRanger can be more than what it is.  Evill has a great thing going right now, and if he had someone to help him organize his thoughts, GR would be the premier gaming service.  He just needs to let his baby go and open it up to others.  I can only imagine the amount of money that he incurs through this service.

I know it might sound like I'm defending him, but let's keep it real.  It's free, it's pretty much stable, and it's your choice.  GR isn't even needed for this league other than recruitment and basic chat.  Other than those two aspects, all of the *DBL CB's can be performed via IP joining through posted servers.  GR makes our lives quite a bit easier.  I would rather log into GR than search for servers to play on, let alone find the people I want to play with.  Also keep in mind that it is Scott's baby.  He has the choice to allow whatever he wants.  Put it this way, he could stop support to GhR, we would bitch immensely, but we would still play games like RvS and others.  Many people would run out to the stores to buy RvS just so they could play on GR again.

In closing, unless someone else takes some initiative, and their own money, to start a gaming service, we will just have to take whatever Evill dishes out, and we will like it.  I fully support competition with monopolies; i.e. GR clones, leagues other than *DAMN.  I think just having one choice forces us to agree with anything and everything that is being offered, and yes, we do agree with it all.  As much as we hate some of the stupid ban stuff, you guys will still log right back on when your ban is over.  

How about this, and I have suggested it before, with all of the programming genius that resides on this forum, why can't *DAMN offer a gaming service?  I think we all have something to offer, and we all have enough experience with GR to think of options that should be included and not be included.  GhR, RvS, AA, RS, R6, and other game support could be offered.  We have enough brains, we could easily raise money with cheap "memberships", and I think we are all just about fed up with GR in some way or another.  I mean, is there really any reason that this wouldn't work besides money and time?

.::|N| Noto

Added:  I think the reason why people are more willing to support GR rather than *DAMN is because GR offers something right away.  If you pay your $50 USD to GR, then you instantly get perks and features that you didn't have only a few minutes ago.  If you become a *DAMN supporter, I believe you get a calendar, a pat on the back, and features in the future.  Perhaps we can use some of the techniques that GR uses in being able to give features at the time of monetary support?  I'm not saying that supporting *DAMN is a waste, it's just that I'm sure many people out there would rather spend money on something they get instantly and use than something down the road.  This sucks, but that's capitalism at it's finest.

[onwig]

Yesterday fassst was impersonating owing (he didn't care) as a joke and he got a ban.

ya that was funny

sry noto its your turn again

and I think we are all just about fed up with GR in some way or another.

dont log onto GR then.... go buy a peeceeee.

I mean, is there really any reason that this wouldn't work besides money and time?

yeah apart from support from devolpers, from gamers,  etc etc


The only thing recently i have seen is some of the admin's of GR be very hasty with the banning, which is pissing people off.

all ya have to do is follow simple rules peeps, if you break them, dont cry afterwards.

[Noto]

Onwig, can you think before you type?  I mean come on, we have to read this, and I don't think we're going to get that time back.

sry noto its your turn again

 and I think we are all just about fed up with GR in some way or another.

dont log onto GR then.... go buy a peeceeee.
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Why should Macintosh users have to buy a Windows based PC to enjoy a multiplayer gaming community?  Onwig, your response is foolish.

I mean, is there really any reason that this wouldn't work besides money and time?

yeah apart from support from devolpers, from gamers,  etc etc
[/b]

Support from developers and gamers wouldn't be difficult, moron.  *DAMN pretty much has support from all of the people who post here, which are the same people who could help program such an endeavor.  When it comes to developers, I'm sure companies such as Aspyr, Red Storm, and others would gladly accept a competitive gaming service.  All you really need is people with time and money.  getting the developers is much easier than one would think.  And yet again, your response is foolish, and misguided with no information whatsoever.

all ya have to do is follow simple rules peeps, if you break them, dont cry afterwards.

No where in the Terms and Conditions of Use of GR does it mention private conversation would be monitored, no would their content be scrutinized by "Evill appointed Admins".  The Terms and Conditions of Use are not very specific and allow for an enormous amount of gray area for disciplinary engagement.  Not only is your response foolish, but it absolutely brings nothing to the conversation that either is wanted or has been stated.  If you would have read my post, which you quoted, you might have noticed I said the same thing when it came to following the rules.  Does this look familiar?

He has the choice to allow whatever he wants.

We already know this you retard.  What most of us are looking for is either some latitude on private messages, or perhaps a clearly written and understandable Terms and Conditions of Use statement.  Wick was probably wrong to talk about pirating software and such, but the implementation of GR rules are pitiful.  Here are a few examples:

As quoted from GameRanger's  Terms and Conditions of Use:

You may not:
- abuse, threaten, harass in any way, any user of GameRanger

Please... when has this ever been enforced?  Example: Rapid.

You may not:
 - transmit any offensive material to any area or user of GameRanger

Perhaps I don't find it offensive, and neither does the person on the receiving end of the private message.

You may not:
 - disrupt the normal flow of dialogue in any area of GameRanger, including but not limited to "scrolling" and "spamming", or repeated entry of meaningless messages

Wow, could someone clearly define scrolling?  I hope all of the 12 yr olds that use GR know what that means.  It's okay though, Evill can punish 12 yr olds because they should be able to understand his jargon, or leave.

You may not:
 - request, promote or encourage the use of, pirated software or non-public beta software

Define pirated software?  If I bought it first, and someone wants it, who says I can't give it to them as a gift via ftp and then destroy it?  Evidently Evill says that we can't.  As far as I know, GR can't be used as a ftp, so what does he (Evill) really have to worry about?  Any since this rule isn't very clearly written, what if I elude to encouraging the use of non-public beta software?  It's not like I flat out said, go for it!

You may not:
 - use more than one account actively

Holy Shit Batman!  This rule is very rarely enforced.  I think Fridge was the only victim of this rule so far.  There are plenty of people who use multiple accounts, and they will keep doing so.

You may not:
 - impersonate the author or any administrators or any other user of GameRanger

Define impersonate.  If I throw a BTs tag on, no one will be able to do anything about it, but if I change my name to eight, and without the BTs tag, do I get in trouble?  Afterall, it's a number, not a name, or is it?  And what if I say it's okay for someone to impersonate me?  I thought this rule was to protect users on GR from those who try to maliciously impersonate.  I didn't know you couldn't have fun.  Down with fun!!!

GameRanger Technologies is not responsible for content of any chat areas or messages.

? ? ? ? ? ?  Then why do they bother preventing what is being said?  If it has no bearing on their company, then why ban its users for content from non-GameRanger employees?

Wait, what the fuck is a GameRanger employee?  Maybe I missed it, but according to the Terms and blah blah blah, Only Scott Kevill can ban.  It does not mention administrators anywhere other than telling you that you cannot impersonate them.  Is there a list of administrators?  I would like to see it.  Anyone, Scott?

.::|N| Noto

Onwig... think first... I know you can do it.  

[onwig]

ok noto,

let me think about this for a second. done

noto, thx for the reply and the amount of insults in it. I really do appreciate it.

No where in the Terms and Conditions of Use of GR does it mention private conversation would be monitored, no would their content be scrutinized by "Evill appointed Admins".? The Terms and Conditions of Use are not very specific and allow for an enormous amount of gray area for disciplinary engagement.? Not only is your response foolish, but it absolutely brings nothing to the conversation that either is wanted or has been stated.? If you would have read my post, which you quoted, you might have noticed I said the same thing when it came to following the rules.? Does this look familiar?

does it have to say in the Terms and conditions? does evill and appointed admins have to tell you what they do?.

Quote from: .::|N| Noto on Today at 01:17:38pm



He has the choice to allow whatever he wants.

We already know this you retard.? What most of us are looking for is either some latitude on private messages, or perhaps a clearly written and understandable Terms and Conditions of Use statement.? Wick was probably wrong to talk about pirating software and such, but the implementation of GR rules are pitiful.? Here are a few examples:

eh?

Noto, you can post another one after this and another its up to you, nowhere in my post did i call you a moron or any other name, please be civilised.

Forum, place to discuss things?

and Noto think first i know you can as well

[Noto]

Noto, you can post another one after this and another its up to you, nowhere in my post did i call you a moron or any other name, please be civilised.

I know you didn't call me a moron or any other name.  I completely started that first, and I wouldn't retract it for a million bucks.  Every time you post, utter nonsense is found.  I just feel that you should think about what you type, and then think about who is going to read your crap.  Calling you a moron is pretty much civilized, as it is in the dictionary.  I could have called you much, much worse, and the word limey could have been used.

Perhaps you should apply for Admin for GR.  Scott needs more weasels I'm sure.

.::|N| Noto

[alaric]

Noto, back off. You're out of line. Nothing onwig has said deserved a bashing like that.

It's nice to see how level-headed some of our new BL admins are.

[Noto]

Alaric, I have read more than a few of Onwig's posts, both here and on other forums.  He never brings anything new to the table, and if anything, incites flames through his misinformation and useless comments.  

And I believe I'm an Admin for the Ghost Recon ladders.  I don't believe my "title" has any bearing in the way in which I conduct myself in the General Gossip section of this forum.  Although, I do refrain from clan bashing, cheat accusations, and other things of that nature.  If you've read any of my posts, you would realize that I almost always reply to comments that are false, misguided, or completely ignorant.  Onwig failed to see that he actually agreed with me on one point.  If you think any of what I have said has anything to do with an Admin's duties, then that is your issue to deal with, not mine.

.::|N| Noto

[Typhy]

It's nice to see how level-headed some of our new BL admins are.

Or in Noto's case, thick headed.

Noto, why don't you just try and start your own GameRanger client and see if Evill will give you an admin spot? It worked with Mauti.