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Question: What was the greatest invention of the 20th Century?
Airplane - 9 (28.1%)
Automobile (pre-20th Century, I know) - 2 (6.3%)
Atomic Power (for energy) - 2 (6.3%)
Computer - 12 (37.5%)
Tang - 6 (18.8%)
Television - 1 (3.1%)
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« on: December 17, 2003, 03:23:16 pm »

As today is the 100th Anniversary of Powered Flight, I thought I would pose this question.

By the way, Aviation is my number one biggest hobby (I currently have a book in the works) so if any of you would like to try and stump me on anything in Aviation History, here's your chance.....just post a question in this thread!
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2003, 03:53:15 pm »

yeah explain to me what aviation means?
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2003, 03:54:03 pm »

g) GameRanger.

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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2003, 03:56:53 pm »

g) GameRanger.

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Damn, sorry Scott, I missed that one!  And I would have added it too if I had thought about it......lol
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2003, 04:09:11 pm »

yeah explain to me what aviation means?

Sure, aviation includes anything to do with airplanes, helicopters, airships....anything that flies.  Although originally aviation meant anything that was heavier than air, with wings, it has come to encompass all things to do with travel through the air (such as hot-air balloons, airships, gliders, even skydiving).  The root word comes from Latin and means bird.
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2003, 05:00:07 pm »

damn take out the tang and it's almost a four way tie. right now i'd like to think that the tv and comp have been my favorites, but for mankind i'd have to say the automoblie or plane. so i'll pick the plane.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2003, 07:12:09 pm »

h) sliced bread
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2003, 07:48:59 pm »

i) broads
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2003, 07:56:30 pm »

alcohol.  Ethyl of course
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2003, 09:08:23 pm »

I'd have to say computers and electronics in general.
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2003, 09:47:52 pm »

By the way, Aviation is my number one biggest hobby (I currently have a book in the works) so if any of you would like to try and stump me on anything in Aviation History, here's your chance.....just post a question in this thread!

Aviation/Aeronautics is also a big hobby of mine. (If you know any good flight sims for mac, let me know)

Moving on, I have some good questions about the history of flight.

1. What is the first known example of human flight.
2. How feasible were da Vinci's flying-machine designs? What did he base his models on?
3. Who was shown on a coin flying on the back of an eagle in 3500 BC?
4. Who came up with the idea of a fixed-wing aircraft.
5. In the second trial of the Montgolfier Brother's hot air balloon, who were the three passengers aboard?
6. Who was the first woman to be killed in a flying accident, and how did it happen?
7. How many years before the Wright Brother's 1903 successful attempt was the curved airfoil invented? By whom?

and lastly...

8. What patent number was issued to the Wrights' Flying Machine?

Try to do as many as possible without looking for the answers online.  Smiley

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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2003, 11:55:37 pm »

No matter how you look at it, although meant in the most sincere fashion, this is a biased question simply b/c it will produce a biased answer.  What I mean is, most people will answer (like anything in life) based on what they learned, know or have experienced.  For ie., for alot of ppl on this forum, who are young, will answer that it is computers; like I did for their reason.  Others, will say airplanes, simply b/c they love flying or b/c they can meet someone half way across the world.  Those that are 80 years old may say Viagra, for their obvious reasons  Smiley etc etc etc
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2003, 11:59:49 pm »

By the way, Aviation is my number one biggest hobby (I currently have a book in the works) so if any of you would like to try and stump me on anything in Aviation History, here's your chance.....just post a question in this thread!

Aviation/Aeronautics is also a big hobby of mine. (If you know any good flight sims for mac, let me know)

Moving on, I have some good questions about the history of flight.

1. What is the first known example of human flight.
2. How feasible were da Vinci's flying-machine designs? What did he base his models on?
3. Who was shown on a coin flying on the back of an eagle in 3500 BC?
4. Who came up with the idea of a fixed-wing aircraft.
5. In the second trial of the Montgolfier Brother's hot air balloon, who were the three passengers aboard?
6. Who was the first woman to be killed in a flying accident, and how did it happen?
7. How many years before the Wright Brother's 1903 successful attempt was the curved airfoil invented? By whom?

and lastly...

8. What patent number was issued to the Wrights' Flying Machine?

Try to do as many as possible without looking for the answers online.  Smiley

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Okay, I'll take a stab at it....although my aviation history experience has been centered around the 20th Century.  I will only answer the ones I know off the top of my head....no looking up answers here:

1.  First example of human flight....hmmm.....well, in literature a father and son took to flight with wings that melted when they flew too close to the sun.....but in real life the only thing that comes to mind were the Chinese who made gliders a long long time ago (was it 2 thousand years ago?).

2. If memory serves me, da Vinci's designs were very accurate and may have been able to fly if they could have been built.  I do know that I have personally used one of his inventions 82 times and it works quite well (the parachute).  I don't know what his models were based on.

3.  I don't know, who was on that coin?

4.  I don't know this one either.....was it da Vinci?

5.  If I am thinking of the correct flight, it was a sheep, a duck, and a rooster.

6.  The only woman that comes to mind was Julia Clark.  I know she was the first American woman to die in an airplane crash, but I think there may have been another woman that died in some other type of aircraft before her (hey, any guesses on what I named my daughter?)

7.  I'm not sure who you would actually give credit for this, as Phillips, Chanute, and Lilienthal all created curved airfoils at about the same time in the 1880's and 1890's.  Maybe Phillips though, as I think he was the first one that actually tested his airfoils.

8.  Hmmm.....hard to keep big numbers like that in my head....lol

Please leave me the correct answers....I don't dive too deeply into ancient aviation history, but I would like to know.

Oh, and the only decent Flight Sims for the Mac in the last few years have been X-Plane and Falcon 4....both of which are getting a little old now.  Sure wish Microshitty would port of their new Flight Simulators (even though I hate their guts....at least I would get to fly!).

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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2003, 05:13:44 am »

1.  First example of human flight....hmmm.....well, in literature a father and son took to flight with wings that melted when they flew too close to the sun.....but in real life the only thing that comes to mind were the Chinese who made gliders a long long time ago (was it 2 thousand years ago?). Chinese kites that carried men, 3000 years ago. Partial credit.

2. If memory serves me, da Vinci's designs were very accurate and may have been able to fly if they could have been built.  I do know that I have personally used one of his inventions 82 times and it works quite well (the parachute).  I don't know what his models were based on.
Full credit. Well done.

3.  I don't know, who was on that coin?
King Etena of Babylonia. No credit

4.  I don't know this one either.....was it da Vinci?
Sir George Cayley. 1799. No credit

5.  If I am thinking of the correct flight, it was a sheep, a duck, and a rooster.
Full credit. Well done.

6.  The only woman that comes to mind was Julia Clark.  I know she was the first American woman to die in an airplane crash, but I think there may have been another woman that died in some other type of aircraft before her (hey, any guesses on what I named my daughter?)
Marie Madeleine Sophie Blanchard. 1809. Her hydrogen balloon caught fire while watching a fireworks display. No credit.

7.  I'm not sure who you would actually give credit for this, as Phillips, Chanute, and Lilienthal all created curved airfoils at about the same time in the 1880's and 1890's.  Maybe Phillips though, as I think he was the first one that actually tested his airfoils.
Phillips indeed. Full credit.

8.  Hmmm.....hard to keep big numbers like that in my head....lol
Patent number 821393. No credit.

3.5 out of 8. Not bad. Those weren't easy questions. Thanks to The American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics for providing the information.
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2003, 07:55:47 am »

Silly noob, the computer was invented in the 19th century by Charles Babbage.
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2003, 09:00:45 am »

     Or it would have been, if he'd ever finished building it.

     I voted for atomic power. It is not the most important invention on the list from today's standpoint, but once humanity wises up enough to take advantage of it, it will be the most important invention since written language.
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2003, 10:22:28 pm »

I am the only one who voted for television (i would've voted for radio, but it was not on there). To me, these technologies brought a HUGE cultural change which resulted in tons on fast paced innovation - communication became nearly instantaneous and could reach a huge audience. Computers (in the broadest sense, information technologies) are an natural outgrowth of these fledgling technologies.
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2003, 10:48:43 pm »

    Or it would have been, if he'd ever finished building it.

Later, people built functional machines using the exact specs that Charles Babbage drew up. I consider that enough to give him credit for inventing the computer.
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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2003, 11:02:41 pm »

    Or it would have been, if he'd ever finished building it.

Later, people built functional machines using the exact specs that Charles Babbage drew up. I consider that enough to give him credit for inventing the computer.

Okay, if you wanna get technical, the first computer advances were made in 400 BC by the Bablylonians that created the Abacus.  Or a little later, around 100 BC, you have the Greeks who made the Antikythera Mechanism.  Or how about Wilhelm Schickard who built the 1st Mechanical Calculator in 1623.  When I said computers, I was really referring to Personal Computers that pretty much anyone has access to and can actually do something more than help someone count.  That advance did not come about until well into the 20th Century.


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