Difference Between Liberals and Conservatives

[BTs_GhostSniper]

Lost To History

[Cossack]

OMG I'm a Southerner.

Just a point of debate. Generalization sucks and so do hippies that hate guns (cough Bondo cough) I am a democrat and I am adamantly pro-guns. A few current mainstream democratic canidates are pro-guns (ie Clark and Dean). Now I am getting off topic. So yes I would shoot him till he looked like Swiss cheese without a second thought.

[Mr.Mellow]

Well said, Coss. Beat me to the punch.

[Brain]

if you are coming at me with a knife and obvious intent to kill, you can kiss your ass good bye.  i will not hesitate to put enough lead in your sorry ass so that a small mining operation can be set up over your grave
i would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six and that is the beginning and end of my train of thought

[*DAMN Hazard]

i would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six and that is the beginning and end of my train of thought

That is the coolest thing I have ever heard.. who did you steal it from?

Erm... on topic... I would blow the guy away. I have the right to bear arms(or would if I was old enough) and I would protect my family. I doubt any jury would convict me for protecting my family.

[Cutter]

i was born up north and now live in the south. i'd consider myself pretty much conservative, but with those extra bangs i had to represent the south!

[alaric]

This is dumb. The scenario has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative. It's just as biased and manipulative as the Fox News Channel.

Besides, anyone who uses labels like liberal and conservative is stupid. Ooh yeah let's find more ways to divide people (as if religion and political parties weren't enough)...

Oh, in case you're wondering, that guy would die 3 times before he hit the ground if he came within 20 feet of my family.

[Supernatural Pie]

i will not hesitate to put enough lead in your sorry ass so that a small mining operation can be set up over your grave

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

pwnage.

[Cossack]

Ok I am tired of people misusing liberal and conservative. If you take a liberal stance you want to change the status quo, if you take a conservative stance you want to keep the status quo. Lets take abortion as an issue. Republicans are liberal, they want to change the current abortion laws, thus the status quo. Democrats and the left want to keep the status quo and thus they are conservative. So that is the correct use of conservative and liberal. It is to identify yourself with an issue and both far left and far right can be conservative and vise versa. Thats Poly Sci 101.

[|MP|Buccaneer]

I've made that point 4 or 5 times in threads about abortion and gun control Sack =D

And remember, they can have my gun when they pry it from my cold, stiff, dead fingers.

[Mr. Lothario]

     In most cases where one might be threatened with a weapon, such as muggings, carjackings, and the like, having a gun or not having a gun is not going to make much of a difference in your possible courses of action. Unless you're a quick-draw champion, you simply aren't going to have time to get to and use your piece without taking a couple of rounds for your trouble. Yes, in a situation where you're killing someone in your home, then a gun would probably be useful. But walking around packing heat will likely never have utility. If you want to be able to deal death at any time and any place (and more usefully, NOT deal death), put time and money into an effective martial art.

     Now for my answer: I've seen someone shot and don't particularly want to inflict that on anybody. So I'd break his arms and knock him unconscious.

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Loth, technically speaking, shooting is a martial art =D.

Seriously, there is some stat that the FBI came up with long ago, about how most gun fights are 6 misses from 6 feet (or something along those lines).  It had some catch phrase that I can't remember now, but the gist of it is that cops do have time to pull their weapons, because between the inaccuracy of pistols, the adrenalin, and just the fact that you don't really stand still, it's not that easy to hit someone in a real gun fight.  It's not like plinking targets at 25 yards.

[Mr. Lothario]

     Hmm, yeah, that makes sense. Still and all, I prefer being able to handle myself even if I don't have a weapon on me. But that's just me.

[kami]

The situation wouldn't even be thinkable in Sweden.

[*DAMN Elandrion]

The situation wouldn't even be thinkable in Sweden.

The same applies to Austria.

[Brain]

what loth says about martial arts is true. if i had a choice between a gun and my fists in that situation i would probably take my fists simply because i am trained in martial art (using that to mean some form of hand to hand combat).  my reasoning is that i'm less likely to miss with my fists than with a bullet and all i need to do is control his arm to stop his attack from harming me and my family.

this does not mean that i would not kill him however.  by flashing that knife  he has exhibited intent to use deadly force.  i would reply in kind and in full

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Yes, we are all aware that Sweden and Austria have absolutely no violent crimes, muggings or murders.  

Just because it doesn't happen often (like it's never happened to anyone I actually know) doesn't mean it couldn't.  Way to take the fun out of a hypothetical.

[-SW- bbaz]

first of all, all of this talk about u disarming him with your hands is BULLSHIT

Loth, lets say this guy pulling the knife knows which side is the sharp end? Most self defense books ive read basically state: if u haven't a weapon, and someone pulls a knife on you, improvise a weapon, or run your ass off. Just because Jason Bourne or James Bond can do it, doesn't mean other people can...especially people like you who sit around arguing and playing computer games most of the day.

Especially if you have a family! It simply isn't worth getting killed over something stupid like this. - If you can run, run. If you aren't fast enough, then 1) either shoot him or 2) if you havent' a weapon, lambard him with your complete BULLSHIT REMARKS ABOUT HOW YOU CAN BEAT HIM UP.

If he is truly as big an idiot as you, he might believe you and run.
Most likey, he wont, you will fight honorably and i wouldn't have to put up with your pompous remarks (and bragging?) at *DAMN anymore.

[tasty]

I think people carrying guns on their person would cause a lot more problems than it will solve. How often does this scenario even happen? It's just an emotional scenario designed to appeal to people's fears and elicit a particular ideological response. If you asked the same question to people and the scenario involved a child finding their fathers gun and shooting themselves, it would be no different.

[Cutter]

maybe from a college dorm in iowa it seems like an unlikely scenario. but after you graduate be sure to move to some nice big city for a real education. the most imoportant things you'll ever learn in life aren't in those books.