Fridge accusing Core-Clan of glitching

[Flies]

hmmmm...

We did a CB versus SL-clan today.
We havent even been able to go over the replays ourselves yet.

However - Fridge has now accused the Core-Clan of glitching.
He PM me and says that the Core-clan is glitching.
I asked him to post it on DAMN-site, to get a second opinion.
To my best knowledge none of my babies are glitching.

Its still not been posted - and I would like to get rid of the chats going on on Gameranger right now,
because its a bit strange to have an uncleared accusation of glitching over your head..... from Fridge.

So - smart move Fridge - could you plz follow up on it ?

This is the first CB my clan has been accused of anything irregular.
If any problems with the cb - be sure we would like to clear the score, and do a rematch.

I hereby- SIGH - call for admins on the first matter involving the Coreclan.
I never thought it would happen.

If Fridge is right - I am of course fully accepting a replay of the CB ("of course" because his accussations are made, even though SL apparently won. So weird as it is, it would just give us a second chance) - and if Fridge is wrong, I would be glad to get it stated here.
Considering the attitude and style we have towards the glitchmatter, I hope admins are aware of the importance of a Glitch-accusation towards our clan.

I do not know how to post the replays, so the admins can see them and make a judgement.
Is there an email-address i have to post ?

Best regards

l ! l  Flies

[.vooDoo.]

I dont see the point of this thread. Im not sticking up for fridge here but why would the admins want to take a look at a replay in which there is no problem coming from the winning clan.

Did Fridge pm you and tell you out of courtesy to becarefull that one of your members glitched by accident? I dont understand.

[Vectorman]

Did Fridge pm you and tell you out of courtesy to becarefull that one of your members glitched by accident? I dont understand.

Yes, that is what fridge did.

[Fridge!]

Umm, this is a little strange, after the cb was over I checked a replay from a game where i thought one of their guys accidentally glitched, and after testing we found he was infact in a glitch, so I politely pm'd flies just to let him know of it just to keep it in mind for the future.  I specifically said, I don't want to make anything out of this, it's just a heads up so you know, and now he's come on claiming that I attacked him with it or something like that.  He kept acting like I was attacking his clan in the conversation I had with him when i was just trying to point it out to them so they could be careful of it in the future, I stated repeatedly that I wasn't interested in posting it all over the forums and making it public, and it never seemed to fully sink in with him.

[Flies]

?

If you get contacted by the opponent clan, and they tell you, your clan glitch...and if you later on get reports, that your clan is being fried in bar&grill mainchat for glitching...and if your clanmembers suddenly get questions from ppl, who were not in the CB, about why and how they glitched...
what would you do - Voodoo ?  
(that rhymed).
 
And to my best knowledge, the above incidents has nothing to do with "courtesy". In my opinion, either my clanmember glitched or he didnt.

Up to this point I wouldnt say that the Core-Clan has been dragging admins into endless disputes. Now I am just asking to get a verdict.

Of course I wouldnt post here, unless I would be convinced myself, that we didnt glitch.

So frankly, I dont give a damn about who you stick up for - and who you dont. I am just asking for clearance on a CB-matter.

Best regards
l ! l  Flies

[c| Dr. NO]

if SL has no problem with it then nor should you.  confirm the battle.

[Flies]

Like described
- apparently they do.

Where do I mail the replay ?

Best regards
l ! l  Flies


Edit: Replay has been mailed to Voodoo and Dr.No

[Fridge!]

Like described by SL~, and I would appreciate if you didn't speak on our behalf, we don't have any problem, we just wanted to inform.

[†FiRE Infection]

The glitch obviously seems to be an accident and Sl was just informing you that one of your players ended up in a glitch.  As you know now with the new rules if a person is in a glitch once by accident the game can be redone but the cb will not be forfeited and brought over here.  That rule was made to avoid problems and every cb being brought over here to protect people who accidently glitch.  Sl won the cb and no harm came from "1" glitch, no more.  So this should be done with.

[Fridge!]

Flies, there is a difference with the red square glitch btw, you can shoot the ppl under the wall, you can shoot the portion of their body visible.  Archer wasn't shootable, even though through his position you would assume he would be.  I really didn't want it to turn into this but now that you have done so I'll state why I figured it was a glitch.  Archer was in a position where although unintentional i understand and for the most part he couldn't see me, I could see him and the portion of him that could be seen was not shootable meaning i could dump 3 clips into his head and it wouldn't do any damage.  Now, in my position when I see somebody's head sticking up I assume that head can see you, and yet I found that I was unable to shoot that head, and through further later testing we confirmed this, we fired many clips off right into a person's face in the same positions and no damage was done.  Now, because of this, it pinned me to my spot, I knew flies was in the trench near the wz and i knew archer was on the ledge, apparantly watching me so I couldn't go anywhere.  My goal had been to take out the sensor i figured that logically would've been placed at that corner, which I could no longer do.  Secondly archer did infact see me throughout parts of our firefight and then launched a volley of nades accordingly which shook my ret when I was trying to shoot at flies.  So did the glitch position give you an adv in that game, i felt yes, however I also realized that it was fully unintentional and not really a position where you would expect it to be a glitch, so I just said whatever, we'll ignore it, we don't want all the bullshit that will follow if we do anything about it, we decided we'd let them have that win uncontested and continue on, which we did.  Then I just thought best to inform flies after the cb of that position in the map, which I did, and I did politely, and then he tweaks and pulls this.  

So there, that is my opinion on why I told flies we thought their member glitched, and why we dont really care that he did, after all you cna't expect ppl to know every single one of the plentiful flaws in ghost recon.  That is why we didn't post it, that is why I am confused as to why any issue should have arisen from this.  Calm down Flies, people make mistakes and believe it or not, members of your clan are just as capable of accidentally running into them as others.  This seems to me now like a, "but we're the core clan, we have principles, we could never ever under any circumstance glitch" sort of issue.  IT'S NOT AN ATTACK ON YOUR CLAN IN ANY WAY.  As i've repeated over and over and over and over we are fully aware it was unintentional and just another result of the many fuck ups with ghr not your players, which is precisely why we didn't want to post it or do anything of the sort, we just thought we should inform you of another troublesome location on a map your team chooses fairly commonly.

And no flies, you can not accuse me of using a glitch in the game, by that point of view you could simply find similar map locations, set up in them and when somebody ran into a position where one of your guys was visible say, "glitcher!"

[c| Dr. NO]

OK guys, this is done and over with.  It was done and over with before this thread was posted.  Confim the battle, move on.

[.vooDoo.]

OK guys, this is done and over with.  It was done and over with before this thread was posted.  Confim the battle, move on.

Try telling flies that, as I did in the first reply.