To "moderate" or not to "moderate"....

[.::|N|SOC]

what is a moderator supposed to do anyway? rile ppl up and then delete thier posts? or just respond in red text anonomously within any post he dislikes?

i ranted at billy last night about this crap..now u can all be party to my madness.... (edited for foul language, but not content)

? on the one hand, i couldnt care less what ppl like voodoo think. he's obviously both an jerk and a moron, so forget him, dont give him the benefit of any more attention, and let him fade into irrelevancy

? on the other hand, he's a frigging admin and he's acting like some teenage moron. obviously on a power trip, has no clue what being a 'moderator' might entail..or how to set an example or 'moderate' a discussion. he needs to get a grip on himself, be put in his place, or lose his position.

i say 'have at him'.... or ignore him completely. i see no reasonable way to deal with the punk. he thinks ppl like him are the only ones making this league work, and that without him it would fail, and that he is completely unappreciated. i wonder why? I can see why he feels that way, who wouldn't? but his position is supposed to be about not taking it personally, and making a productive tool of these discussions.

well, screw him. other very very fine folks, (like Flies for example, who has no beef with anyone, who never gets riled or flames or any of that crap, as far as i can tell)...have tried to point out some problems and work on a solution (or at least a discussion towards a solution)...and voodoo and his ilk take it as an insult and either ignore it completely or insult whoever brings it up.

i guess they rather spend their valuable intellectual capital on sorting out who glitched who, etc etc, stuff that really should just get shoved back in the participating clans faces to sort out for themselves. its all such a complete waste. do we really need a public forum to discuss every single cb, or every game therein? I mean, cmon.

I'm just ignoring them all from now on. Screw these forums, they stink. it goes nowhere. I used to love them. Now they just turn to ashes every time a new thread begins. like this one. what a stupid idea this was.

If i ever get a chance to cb again, I ain't leaving until it's all settled, no going to the moderators. if we cant settle it in the room with the other team, then screw this whole league. it's utter crap if two teams cant decide who won and who lost. replays are no way to judge whats happened, and every witnessed is hostile and biased.

anyway, love y'all and hope to get on gr again soon. this 15 min here and 15 min there is killing me. i really need to get a grip on work and life and all.

To sum up...my beef ain't with DAMN, or with anyone, really. I am sort of ticked off at voodoo, but i'd rahter ignore him than be mad at him. He used to be cool, and I assume this is a brief spell of insanity. I appreciate all the hard work by EVERYONE to make this workso well  for so long. But it's getting out of control, getting to be much less enjoyable, and I see few signs that it will improve. Then again, with idiots like me blowing the negativity horn, what chance does it have....

[.::|N| DIESEL]

I bet this thread will be modified or deleted and not by the author.  

[.::|N|SOC]

actually i almost deleted it myself....

i'll just leave it.

they'll modify it or delete it or they'll just ban me from DAMN altogether.....


THE EMPORER HAS NO CLOTHES

[.::|N| DIESEL]

Soc, Im thinkin 5 bucks and a case of beer...

[seth]

i agree.

[SignTist]

i agree.
I question seriously the impartiality of some moderators.

WTF you talking about?

[Mr. Lothario]

     Sign, bob is pissed at MP and the fact that several of our guys are moderators. He had another couple of threads about it. ::adds bob to the Big List o' MP-hatin'::

[seth]

I dont hate MP, its just that I dont like some of you.

[GEN BILLY]

Doodoo is the only moderator in question in my mind i dont have a problem with MP or any other clan he was in.

Doodoo stated in a recent post that he talked to me in a private message regarding a pic i had in my signature and asked me to take it off.

He never talked to me in a private message in this forum or on gameranger in regard to the topic above and i called him a liar.

After that he deleted all post pertaining to the issue like it didnt take place. doodoo is one of the biggest babys on gr he has no balls or guts to come to me and talk about the situation its easier to just delete ... huh doodoo

I dont think damn community deserves a moderator like this.  it brings down the credibility of this site when you have a moderator taking out his personal aggresions and using his powers like he did here just think if everyone of the mods did that there would be no dam site left.  I am calling for doodoo to relinquish his moderator abilities since hes is a proven liar.

That is my opinion and mine alone.

[Mr.Mellow]

VooDoo is a fine man and a true gentleman. You guys won't realize what a good job he's done until he's gone. He might piss off those he Moderates? now and then, but he makes the rest of us happy. So, to Voods: Kudos to you, sir. Kudos.
I don't know what that means, but I think it's good.

[GEN BILLY]

Mr Mellow

He might just be a fine man but he did lie and that is just not right.
You just dont know the whole story and probably never will.  

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Funny, so many people here have been complaining that there should be less bitching and flaming on the BL side of things, but a little moderation to keep the thread on topic and VooDoo is a bad man.

Soc, you seem way too pissed, and are questioning a lot more then moderation in your post, all over a couple posts being deleted?  Sounds like weaksauce to me.

[*DAMN Hazard]

Add me to the hate list if you want, but I'm just pointing out what I see to be the truth

? on the one hand, i couldnt care less what ppl like voodoo think. he's obviously both an jerk and a moron, so forget him, dont give him the benefit of any more attention, and let him fade into irrelevancy

Obviously you don't know voodoo, obviously you don't know how annoying it is to have stuff going wrong in your life then come on to something that used to be an escape for you and be confronted by something like this. Maybe he just had a bad day. I know voodoo and he is a great guy, it was thoughtless and stupid of you to even post this. This is the kind of stuff people need to be mature about and take it up in a PM.

? on the other hand, he's a frigging admin and he's acting like some teenage moron. obviously on a power trip, has no clue what being a 'moderator' might entail..or how to set an example or 'moderate' a discussion. he needs to get a grip on himself, be put in his place, or lose his position.

Teenage moron? My definition of a teenage moron is one who acts without thinking, what good could you have possibly thought this thread would create? On a power trip? He used none of his admin powers! He dropped Billy a little note and that was the extent of it's use! C'mon now grow up vent your anger somewhere else.

i see no reasonable way to deal with the punk. he thinks ppl like him are the only ones making this league work, and that without him it would fail, and that he is completely unappreciated.

Well if people like him aren't making it work(dedicated ones) then who is? The people spending their time looking for loopholes to a 6-0 win? Or is it the people criticizing the system and the people who run it?

I see few signs that it will improve. Then again, with idiots like me blowing the negativity horn, what chance does it have....

Final thoughts jerry springer style: This is a post written out of anger. You want to solve something, maybe make a difference in this league that you "used to love" do something about it. You giving up on it because you disagree with someone isn't the way to go. Be mature.

[†FiRE Infection]

You guys need to relax.  Say it all you want but there is no bias behind your backs that the Battle League Moderators have against you.  We check out the problems in cbs and threads.  We've been given outlines while being allowed to interpret them we stick to them mostly.  We've been taught how to moderate and change posts and what is appropriate/inapproprate.

As for Voodoo having a problem with Flies and such, it's no complaint about Flies trying to add to and help the battle league.  It's just that he tends to question everything about the battle league and not just give some things some time.  We talk about this stuff and how to handle it.

Voodoo almost left the battle league and it was because of people complaining for poor reasons that should be dropped and people just not playing the games anymore.  Voodoo was one of the first moderators I met and one of the first to greet/welcome me.  You need to have more respect and trust that we know what we are doing.

[Aramarth]

This is the kind of stuff people need to be mature about and take it up in a PM.

Hazard, its no fault of yours but you are less than fully informed.  The only reason this issue got to the forum and was not resolved on GR is that Voodoo blocked those who he had this arguement with.  Take from that what you will, but obviously neither side helped solve the problem.

I've spent an couple hours talking to Billy and to Voodoo about this issue (trying to cover all bases).  It is really out of hand by now, and would have been much easier fixed months ago.  However, I've proposed and they have agreed to meet in GR and talk it out.  I will sit in as a mediator.

Make no mistake, both sides are at fault.  That is why this doesn't have any easy solutions.  Its time someone fixed it.

[Typhy]

SOC, get off Vood's back. If I were him, I would've taken out this thread by now, and sent you a very hostile PM.

I've known VooDoo sense CIA, :looks at date:, so about 2 and a half years. Which, judging from the ammount of spelling and grammar errors in your post, is probably about as long as you've spoken English for.

? on the one hand, i couldnt care less what ppl like voodoo think. he's obviously both an jerk and a moron, so forget him, dont give him the benefit of any more attention, and let him fade into irrelevancy

And you're obviously a schizophrenic toddler with his head so far up his ass, the only light you get is that of the shit having a reaction with the acne on your face.

? on the other hand, he's a frigging admin and he's acting like some teenage moron

Your what now, Vood? 28? 29? SOC, if you want to see a "teenage moron", look in a miror, you flaming hypocrite.

i say 'have at him'.... or ignore him completely. i see no reasonable way to deal with the punk. he thinks ppl like him are the only ones making this league work, and that without him it would fail, and that he is completely unappreciated. i wonder why?

Back at RS, I'd get involved in nearly every Battle League issue. It'd become tedious after a while, but I'd stick with it for the good of the RS ladder. After GHR came out, I stopped carring. I figured "newbies will be newbies, why interfere? Let them learn, let them grow." Vood, on the other hand, decided to stay with things. The ammount of shit that he's had to deal with, from a forum stand point, it's amazingly impressive that he hasn't lost his mind yet.

doodoo is one of the biggest babys on gr he has no balls or guts to come to me and talk about the situation its easier to just delete ... huh doodoo

What the fuck are you smoking? You fucking prick.

Maybe you should talk to someone who's  been on GR for more than, oh, say, 6 weeks? Vood has the guts to do what needs to be done, but the intelligence to know when to let things take care of themselves, which is a fucking load of a lot more than can be said about your sorry ass.

The only reason this issue got to the forum and was not resolved on GR is that Voodoo blocked those who he had this arguement with.?

Just because Vood's is a moderator doesn't mean that he's required to listen to the pathedic ramblings of a hypoctitical, hypercritical dumbshit.

If you wanted to come on GR and talk to him in a respectful manner, I'm sure he'd be most attentive. If you want to come on GR and be a stupid prick, then I can't blame him for blocking you.

Anyway, got a problem with what I said? Good. I'll be happy to argue it with you on GR, but get off VooDoo's case.  [/color]

[TRIBE_Horda]

well uhmm

for me there is only 3 BL admins here
Mauti
EL
Civic

didnt c others doing anything

they just forums mods (bad or good i dont care)

schit season, schit BL atm

hope it ll go better

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Mr Mellow

He might just be a fine man but he did lie and that is just not right.
You just dont know the whole story and probably never will.  

Billy, if anyone here doesn't know the whole story, that's your and Soc's fault.  You guys brought the complaint forward here, so if you can fill it with insults, but not the facts, that your own damn fault.  That it doesn't help your case is obvious to some of us.

Horda,

Just because you don't see them doing things, doesn't mean that they are not.  They are all admins, and all deserve to be recognized.  Or should I not recognize Civic, since he's new and I don't know him as well?  

Aramarth,

This may be a matter of both are wrong, but blocking them in GR shouldn't be the problem, and any pointing to that is pretty much bullshit in my opinion.  They could PM him on DAMN, but VooDoo's time on GR should be his own, to play games and talk to who he wants.  Escalating it to the public forum here was nobody's doing but Soc's (maybe helped by Billy).  

I get along with all the people involved, and I agree, it's probably some misunderstanding.  But I also think it's been taken too far.

[BFG]

Lol... Pity there isn't an age limit on moderators

Hell pity there isn't a minimum level of materity required in order to be allowed to play GR!    

[c| Dr. NO]

All i'm going to say is i respect voodoo.  This here is nothing more the a schoolyard fight.