Raven Shield must really blow

[(SEALs) one]

Alright, I've never tried Raven Shield or such, but scrolling through the RvS forums at www.raven-shield.com there seem to have been many complaints about this game...and how much it sucks.


One

[alaric]

I've played through most of the single player on my PC and I didn't have any of the problems they had on those forums. I haven't played much on multiplayer though.

I wasn't really worried about bugs until I read those forums. Now it's looking like RVS is gonna be another UBI crapfest...  

[Jeb]

I woulda thought that since ubi is using a 3rd party game engine for RVS that it wouldn't blow since they don't have to code as much. But i guess whatever monkey's they chained to keyboards can fuck up even an easy task.

[(SEALs) one]

I find that the only good part about Raven Shield is the graphics which are spectacular, but the rest seems to be trash.

[Cow]

shit, what game is gonna oust GhR? MAC gamming blows =/

[Mr. Lothario]

     Hopefully America's Army, Cow.

[[[EUR]] HoloGram]

RvS istnt that bad as it seems to be when u read the Forums.
the problem in those forums are that those ppl post that have probs not those who have none! That makes this game look like shit.

I play it now for a long time. And I didnt experience most of those Probs. Exception are the FPS - they have to optimize the gameengine to solve those FPS broke - ins.

Some bugs exist but they happend to me only 4 times since the release.

[Cow]

oh ya! i play that on PC now =).  Will Enemy Territory come out for mac too?  That game is better then half-life and FREE

[.::|N| SeRP]

I wish Operation Flashpoint would come to Mac.

[Typhy]

shit, what game is gonna oust GhR? MAC gamming blows =/

There is nothing needed to "oust GHR". GHR isn't a very popular game, in comparison with games like Medal of Honor ( Allied Assault and Spearhead ), RTCW, UT 2K3 ( maybe not yet, but soon ), and SOF2.

[Cow]

those server games? because i see GHR all over the place

[Typhy]

Wow, you see 12 GHR servers? I see 1,850 RTCW ones.  

[(SEALs) one]

Hologram fill us in on Raven Shield please...

Could you tell me what are the:

Pros of Raven Shield
and
Cons of Raven Shield

[Typhy]

I can help.

Pros: Nice graphics.

Cons: Everything else.  

[[[EUR]] HoloGram]

Pros:
very nice gameplay, cool, grafics, good KI, realistic weapons, great maps,
Also new game types are fun: Pilot, Bomb.

Cons:
some MP bugs, needs a strong computer with ?high end Graficscard,
the Silenced weaps ( they demage to less ), they fucked up the netcode ( will be fixed in future ). U have to register on UBI.com to be able to play RvS. But it dont cost anything.

The last PC patch solved some probs on my side! But the problem for PC gaming is that there are to many different computer configurations. It is impossible to check them all. So some ppl still have probs, and some never had any probs. But this also comes from, b/c ppl often buy cheap components and these make there computer sux. Or they buy components that cause conflics.

I say Raven Shield is a great game!! And it will be a great game.
The Add ON: Athena Sword will kick ass, also.

I dont like Americas Army b/c its a part of recruitment policy of the US ARMY.

For those who say RtWC is better! Guys go home, u cant compare those! RtWC isnt a tactic shooter. also Mohaa not. They are fun but they are no tactic shooter. I also tired RTCW ET but it didnt impress me much. Still the same game with a few new maps and game types.

[Typhy]

Some of what you said are facts, others are matters of opinion, and one is just bullshit.

"Very nice gameplay" is a matter of opinion, I personally hate the gameplay.

Good graphics is just a fact. RvS has very nice graphics.

Yet again, shitty AI's, which is becoming a trademark of UBI.

Realistic weapons is a fact.

Great maps is a matter of opinion, and while I don't disagree, many might.

RTCW is the most teamwork based game out there today. Dispite having some of the best graphics ( second to UT2K3 on the mac side ), I'm still able to pull 75-100FPS on it, even on my laptop.

Exellent lag control, very few bugs, and wonderful gameplay.

When it comes to the comparison of the facts, RTCW owns RvS, everything else is just a matter of opinion.  

[[[EUR]] HoloGram]

Typhy - U CAN NOT COMPARE THESE TWO.

TEAM BASED GAMEPLAY FOR RTWC IS TRUE, BUT the whole gamestyle is absolute different.

AI isnt that bad as many say! plz show me a better KI in any game?
Its is just a fact that the AI isnt perfect, but this is a game where the AI should behave realistik - that is why the teammembers of r6 dont perfect stats - also a matter of fakt is that the AI interacts with the levels and that they follow your commands! I have never had such problems which are explained in the forums where the whole team was wipped out by clearing a room! But that would not be unrealistic , this can happen when u play against 30 terrors with a few AI support! The more AI on the level the less is the individual AI of each computer controled person.

It is also a difference between UT Bot, which simply jump arround and kill, to the RainbowTeam bots in RvS. Who have to move slowly and who have to react realistic - and maybe reactc on your comands evrywhre on the map!

@maps being a matter of opinion: The map design is very good. I did not see many maps with that good mapdesign. But u can say to any game that its maps are a mater of opinion

@RtWC grafics: RtWC is an old engine, so it dont wonder me that u can get 75-100 FPS out of it! For ID it also took a few patches the to solve some lag probs for the Q3 engine!
But now u compare Q3 Engine which is old with UT2k3. But the RvS engine is a Unreal 2 engine. And YES THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. There is a UT2003 engine and a Unreal II engine! and they are not the same.
Havin 70 FPS - 100 FPS on your notebook isnt a cloo. I had 70-100 on my 800 Duron with Kyro II Graficskard when RtWC came out. And this was not an highend configuration.

U seem to be one of those whiners that complained about RvS that its release was later then promised. But not complain about the few bugs of the later release. This is shit! This game is nearly perfect. If they can solve the FPS probs. It will be perfect. But when u dont like it dont play it.


@ RtWC owning RvS:

THIS is comlete bullshit. U compare 2 different things, that are not compareble. RtWC teambased --> YES: BUT a absolute different game style. Less realistic. I also did not say that Rtwc isnt teambased. I said that it is not a tacticshooter. Tacticshooter is a genre, and anybody will be on my side when I say that RtWC is not belonging to tactic shooters. Its is a ego shooter with some nice MP features. But the MP and SP of RtcW are completly different, whyle the style of RvS is the same in MP and SP - move in teams, use tactics and reach the mission.

U also say that u hate the gameplay: ok, but then u should hate the gameplay of RS , b/c nothing changed besides of a few new features that u are not forced to use.

ONCE AGAIN DONT COMPARE RTWC TO RVS. IF U DO SO. U CAN START TO COMPARE UT2K3 ALSO. B/C IT HAS SOME TEAM PLAY FEATURES, like BOMBIG RUN, and the SIMPLE CTF.

[kos.viper]

Wow, you see 12 GHR servers? I see 1,850 RTCW ones.  

You're comparing 12 MAC GhR servers to 1,850 PC RTCW servers I believe.

[Saberian 3000]

Well, whenever they decide to come out with RVS it should be a refreshing change.  

[BFG]

There is also just the small matter of the possibility of a Mac port of the amazing looking Half Life Two. Watched the massive tech demo of the game and its engine a few weeks back, and should this game come to the Mac platform its going to knock the socks off anything around. Ok its not exactly the same as Ghost recon, but if your looking for fantastic graphics, advanced audio, incredable maps and interactivity, genius AI and some fantastic gameplay... this might just be the game to watch out for. Not that Im trusting we have a hope in hell of getting this game after the disaster with Half life... but should it be ported, and ported properly, i don't believe anyone could have aything negative to say about it...

Take a look at the video if you can hunt it out- a bit of a monster at a couple of hundred megs... but well well worth it!!