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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2003, 08:50:51 pm »

yes, kami

the issue with syria is not that they have wmds, but that they warmed up enormously to the baath regime in bagdhad over the past two years and the US is afraid that some sensitive stuff was moved from iraq to syria at the start of the war.

also, iraq has been bribing its neighbors into supporting them diplomatically by offering discount prices on the hottest commodity these days......you guessed it: OIL. Both Jordan and Syria have been receiving cheap iraqi crude, which they are very reluctant to lose access to, which is what will happen now that saddam is no longer in power.

cossack: gimme a break...you need to stop listening to "conspiracy-brotha" and using your head. yes some israelis would like to see a "greater Israel" from 'the nile to the euphrates', but that is nothing but a pipedream and 95% if israelis know that. besides, today israel is preoccupied with protecting itself from terrorists, so i doubt that your 'dominate the middle east' scenario is in forefront of any israeli military officials mind. is it israels fault that saddam has been abducting, torturing and murdering iraqis for 20 years? no, but hey.....lets just blame it all on the jews. its worked in the past, right??
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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2003, 03:20:34 am »

Its funny how Wolfowitz's essay is showing what is happening now, 10 years earlier. I have it in my hand. I am not blaming it on the jews, I am blaming it on the zionists. Its is not radical conspiracy theory, true it is in definition a conspiracy theory, but its been made public. The whole Middle East Policy carried out by the Bush Administration is constructed by guess who? Richard Pearl and Paul Wolfowitz. They are among Bush's most trusted and they hold (held as is the case with Pearl's recent resignation) powerful position in our national government. I think that you must think with your head abe. I know Israel is protecting itself from freedom fighters, but when the motto, "From the Nile to the Euphrates" holds the place of "We the People" you have to be paranoid of the zionist nazi state.
Syrian does endorse freedom fighting orginizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah, Israel views them as a thorn in their side that must be attrited. Sharon made a public statement that he wants to see Israel expand in size. He said that on a god damn radio address. No one listens to them. Abe do 95% of Israeli's think that, was their a poll? Is that your personal estimate? Israel is not responsible for Iraqis disappearing, but they are responsible for shelling Palestinians, massacres of school children, and bulldozing of whole civilian.Lets blame it on the Muslims.... its working in the present right?
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2003, 05:33:08 am »

All i will say is...before we stop others from making WMD...why dont we stop ourselves. Also, Bush is the spawn of Hilter...whoever voted for him is an idiot.  I saw right through his shit, he favors the rich and is always looking for a fight.  He could end up to be the worst pres in history if he keeps up what hes doing right now...

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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2003, 06:18:33 am »

You shoulda seen what he did with our state as governor. He got rid of corporate tax. Now we are in a gigantic budget deficit, and the republicans who just came to power in Texas senate and house are too pussy to put tax on the corporations. Instead they are selling essential services off, and already stupid Texan school children will become stupider. I find it stupid that Gore didnt attack his record in Texas.
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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2003, 09:16:36 am »

I think I got my education while the getting was good.  It seems a lot of states are making huge cutbacks in education.  I think the US needs to try a type of schooling that my girlfriend's HS uses (it is one of only a few in Canada) where they don't actually have classroom lectures.  It is self paced and you have various packets of work for each class that need to be completed in order to recieve credit.  You are made to go to the school for about five hours a day in which you are able to work on the packets using the resources.  They take tests once they feel they are ready for them (part of the self-pacing).  Additionally they have some small seminars where the teacher has perhaps 5 students in a sort of lecture/discussion.  This type of system accomplishes much more education wise without really needing any more teachers.

The funny thing, the combined deficits in state budgets is similar to the amount Bush asked for for the war.  So instead of having the war we could have covered the state deficits and insured the services wouldn't be diminished.
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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2003, 01:48:40 pm »

well, blaming it on the muslims does seem to work right now... at least for the bush supporters.

sharon and his orthodox jews are full of shit. i dont believe the jews have an unlimited well-fare ticket , just because they had to be the scapegoat often the last couple of thousand years. that doesnt make everything right they do, and what they are doing now and have been doing the last years is morally wrong.

lets see what really will happen in israel, bush said he wants to establish a palestinian sovereign country, but id bet a whole lot of money that its just blah blah again.

 
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« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2003, 06:55:18 pm »

Cossack I'm glad you're informed on foreign policy and can see the geopolitical goals behind every foreign policy action the Bush administration takes. If anyone doesn't believe him, go read the foreign policy articles written by Wolfowitz, Pearle, Cheney, Rice, and Rumsfeld when they all worked for the neoconservative think tank The Project for a New American Century, or PNAC. Go to newamericancentury.org  or search google for PNAC and you can read most of the disgusting things they've written.
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« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2003, 07:07:01 pm »

Reform Jews, conservative jews were for it mostly. Orthodox Jews were against the creation of the Zionist state.
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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2003, 08:24:57 pm »

Reform Jews, conservative jews were for it mostly. Orthodox Jews were against the creation of the Zionist state.

A regretful choice of words on my part, by conservative I meant more traditional in belief which would target Othodox and Hasidic Jews more so than Conservative Jews...I just watched the movie The Chosen in comparative religions.  Great movie to get a better understanding about the different jewish cultures.
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« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2003, 10:22:49 pm »

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The funny thing, the combined deficits in state budgets is similar to the amount Bush asked for for the war.? So instead of having the war we could have covered the state deficits and insured the services wouldn't be diminished.

Yes, Bondo, but now we have a whole generation of uneducated Americans who believe the world is now a safer place to live  Wink
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