Just need to clarify something

[[SSI} Uffz.B]

This is  question about a cb we had with tribe today.  

First off Tribe defeated us 8-6-1.  I have no problem with this.  The probem I am having is that they tried to make an illegal sub during the CB.  After about 30 minutes of discussion the continued 2 vs 3.   They kept leaving the cb and re-entering after a few minutes passed.  I do understand that crashes happen, but five or six times?  At one time the entire clan (Tribe) left the cb, and then returned.  Is this alright to do ?  I do have several screen shots to back  this up.  Is this common practice during cb's?  My understanding is that, if a team leaves the cb, they forfiet the match?  Could someone please inform me and the rest of us.

Thanks,

[SSI]  Uffz.B

[*DAMN Mauti]

Well usually you are only allowed to sub members if someone crashes but if someone has to leave you can agree to it if it doesn't need to long time(if there is another member waiting in GR for example). The rule was made to keep the cb going(subbing can need a lot of time) but I don't think you should shout out for a forfeit because of this.

Bye,

Mauti

[[SSI] Uffz.B]

I was not looking for a forfeit for the cb.  I was just wondering if it is legal for a clan to consistently leave a cb once it has started.  They messed around between hosting of the 6-5-1 cb(it was in our favor) for 30 minutes.  Leaving entering, leaving again and then entering again.  As a result of that we lost one of our key players, and had to finish the cb 2v2.  What was stopping them from changing name tags in favor of a better player?  I'm not saying they did this, but it certainly could happen.   If a whole clan leaves a cb there should be some kind of penalty to the clan leaving a battle without reason (just leaving is no reason).


thanks for listening,

[SSI] Ufzz.B

[.vooDoo.]

Well Mauti....although I dislike forfiets too I myself in this situation would have ended the cb and taken the forfiet for all the leaving and rejoining. Tribe has already proven to be troublesome and maybe I have a short fuse. A few time leaving and rejoining would get me angry, but anymore of that would have earned Tribe a forfiet. There is no reason with the new ghr update that that many would have crashed so many times. Im all for messing around ourside of cb's, but once in a cb its all buisness and I dont like any funny buisness.  

[.::|N| DIESEL]

Mauti-

I dont think u understand what uff is posting about.  I dont think a clan should have to wait for another clan during overtime to sub players when they players being subed didnt crash.  I, also, dont think that a clan should have to wait for a clan when players leave without saying why and wait for them for 10-15 mins.  This, to me, is uncalled for and should be looke at by the person who makes up the rules.  I, you, noone has 3 hours for a CB.  This is not fun for me and i think something should be done about it.  

Firstly, I think the number of games should be looked at.  The best of 10 seems like too many.  I think best of 5 or 7 would be more ideal.  Considering that there would be less time for cb'ing and more teams may cb.  

Second.  the new rule update that had recently changed; is worthless.  It does not eliminate the clans that seem to camp and extend the play of games for no reason.  I think to earn a point during a cb, that clan  MUST eliminate all players on the opposing team.  I dont know why it just dosent stay like this.  Tribe gave a good example as to why I never cb'ed them nor how I would ever intend on wasting 3 hours of my life with them during any other cb plans in the future.  

This is where people have a problem grasping the game.  Its easy to cheat.  Its harder to win playin by the rules.  

Its also unfortunate, Mauti, that u posted what u did to my temmate Uffy.  I would have expected a bit more class from you.

thanks for ur time guys.

[*DAMN Mauti]

I dont think a clan should have to wait for another clan during overtime to sub players when they players being subed didnt crash.  I, also, dont think that a clan should have to wait for a clan when players leave without saying why and wait for them for 10-15 mins.

Second.  the new rule update that had recently changed; is worthless.  It does not eliminate the clans that seem to camp and extend the play of games for no reason.  I think to earn a point during a cb, that clan  MUST eliminate all players on the opposing team.  I dont know why it just dosent stay like this.  Tribe gave a good example as to why I never cb'ed them nor how I would ever intend on wasting 3 hours of my life with them during any other cb plans in the future.  

Vood you are right - I only answered in general about this case with not all facts given.

Uff it would be against rules that all players leave, that they leave the cb 5 - 6 times without saying a peep and if you had to continue because of this 2vs2 is a good point for  getting a forfeit. I'll put Tribes cb on hold for now.

Diesel the tie rule has already been changed backwards - see the BL news.

At all we didn't allow subs in a GR cb because it needs to much time same for RS but there you change hosts once so you can sub without time delay.

I think a best of ten is ok - in average needs an hour - longest cb I played was 1 1/2 hours.

Alright that's it for the moment - awaiting Tribes answer,

Mauti

[TRIBE_Horda]

omg
i  went go read rules 16 on the web site and print it while others were in game room
coz this rule was not in downloaded (RULE 16 on download RULES is about ROGER WILCO), and SSI knew that and agreed then we played 2 vs 3 (coz SSI was enough smart/class to wont adjust or lez us sub a player) and we finished the cb that SSI lost.
So Plop had to left, MaxNet was ready to replace Plop
SSI prefered play us 3v2  

[TRIBE_Horda]

http://fvo.free.fr/ssi/

of course there you'll not see SSI crying coz they didnt loose yet
 

[*DAMN Mauti]

Screenshots doesn't work yet however the curious about this story is that you obviously left 5 - 6 times and once the whole clan disconnected. What's up with that!?

Mauti

[TRIBE_Horda]

screenshots works fine, just refresh ur browser
u ll c that i left to check rules and also that SSI and us finished the cb after the rule point.

[*DAMN Mauti]

May the pics work for you but not for me: img src=file:///Jeux/Games/Ghost%20Recon%20-%20Desert%20Siege/Snapshot%2074.jpg ...

[TRIBE_Horda]

ups
ss  should work now

http://fvo.free.fr/ssi/

[[SSI] Uffz.B]

As I said in my posts before, I have no problem with the loss.  The problem I am having is the fact that the entire Tribe clan left the CB for almost 5 minutes.  To me something is fishy with that.  I guess Diesel should have closed the room after you all left and none of this would be an issue.  It would  have ended by forfeit on your part.  You are the ones that left the CB for some unknown reason.  I do know that Horda was checking the rule.  But the other two guys should of stayed, going off on their own to do God knows what.

This whole thing sucks.  I'm almost sure I will not CB in the furture because of all the complaining and cheating going on.  If this is the way the battle league is going to be, I want no part of it.  This is not directed towards those that play the game correcty.  Those that DO NOT know who they are, this is for you guys.


For christ sake BOYS its a F'n game.  Its not the end of the world for some to loose.  I would gladly loose every CB if I'm having fun and playing the game correctly.

thanks again all,


Uffz.B

[*DAMN Mauti]

Yup I c.

Well Horda may you can just answer this question before I close this thread.

Bye,

Mauti

[TRIBE_Horda]

Yup I c.

Well Horda may you can just answer this question before I close this thread.

Bye,

Mauti

Which question ?

And, u gona void all cb wich had subing? u gona follow rules?

[*(SPU) mono]

This whole thing sucks.  I'm almost sure I will not CB in the furture because of all the complaining and cheating going on.  If this is the way the battle league is going to be, I want no part of it.  This is not directed towards those that play the game correcty.  (...) For christ sake BOYS its a F'n game.

same here. i find it somewhat entertaining to read the forums once per day, but fact is, it completely turns me off in regard to actual CBing. which is sad, i like the concept of clans battling and all, but all this whining and cheating and name-calling and intriguing sickens me ... yes i'm a poor friggn n00b thankyou. maybe one needs to be a l33t vet to estimate this kind of behaviour. we played a few amazing CB's against virus (even won one, heheh), but currently i don't see what other clan i would like to CB, as most seem either inactive or involved in all this shit.

[*DAMN Mauti]

OMG - that is so "eehh"  

The question why at one time the whole clan disconnected?

Mono and Uff you are talking about cheating? Could you explain what you mean with it!?

Bye,

Mauti

[PLOPje]

hmm I left because my dad was angry on me so I couldnt play further
I didnt expected to play that long SSI did better then i expected.
So I told horda I needed to leave so when that last game was finished
and there was an other player ready to replace me.SSI didnt accepted that sub i think I dont know I was gone already.
So horda left the cb to check rules
and the 2nd player left the game to wait for horda in gr probaly he was confused a bit.  but it if they played again after the "pause" 2v3 I dont see
why it would be a forfeit but maybe some clear rule about subbing in wars in ghr. I agree you could change the best out of 10 to 7 or 6. Or let the clans decide that before they cb. So people dont waste 3hours to a cb

[TRIBE_Horda]

Ok Mauti just want to be sure, cant know with u
well first thing to make clear; its sure that if SSI won the cb  they didbt do all this shit, they just cant stand a loose
i exited like 4 times, 2 times for read a specific ghost recon rules (wich is in RS rules erm) and few times to catch  my members Maxnet to say him that SSI wont sub a player (how smart/class r SSI) and that he couldnt play (poor Max wanted play bad). Takuto wich is from japan and doesnt speak good english (few words) exited also to  c whats if we were finishing the cb; SSI and TRIBE was still in the game room on game ranger and we went to finish the cb that they lost 8-6-1. (At this point SSI didnt loose yet and agreed to finish the cb)
So SSI was ok that we finish the cb 2(TRIBE)v3(SSI)
And Tribe was able to finish the cb ( screw ur forfeit SSI)
And no where in rules it say that it isnt allowed to check rules between maps or in a case of rule point that need to be checked to wait on game ranger

Just usuals bullshits, and ho SSI camp not bad also, nothing wrong with SSI beside diesel that is kinda 12 years old rude kid (in this head at least).
and about camping, peeps that dont like campers should go play UT (u like speed games go play UT and stfu), camping is a part of the game and TRIBE didnt camp much  on this cb.

[TRIBE_Horda]

oh and yea i agree with Uffzb (what ever his name) the ssi guy
10 games is to  much
and:
http://www.thecombatzone.net/modules.php?name=Ghost_Recon

thats good rules