PREMIUM GR!!! WTF!!!?!?!

[BTs_Colin]

OMG I'm never paying this!!!!

I suggest we boycott premium members!!!

Vent here!!!

[*DAMN Mauti]

Why boycott premium users!? Colin you haven't lost any features. You just pay for some additional features if you want them.

Bye,

Mauti

[The Ghost of Bondo]

Seeing as I don't have GR...anyone want to fill in on the details?

[Casper]

bondo just got to http://www.gameranger.com/premium

[The Ghost of Bondo]

Hmm, some of the features are useful, but not $50/year useful.  Anyone actually thinking about getting this?

[[DEA] fire::fly]

one word:

BOO!!!!!

Gameranger doesnt work as it is.  Why would i pay 50 bucks just to have a bigger icon?  If there was a gameranger that didnt crash midgame, postgame, and pregame, and users could join in the first 15 attempts, then maybe i'd pay something.  At most $10.  This is a joke.  Evill must have upgraded his brand of crack.

again,

BOO!!!!!

[BTs_Colin]

For comparison: GameSpy Arcade subscribers get this for $20 USD

In-Game Voice Chat
 Subscribers can use Arcade's voice chat even after launching a peer-to-peer or parlor game!


 Ad-free Gaming
 Subscribers never see banners or full-screen ads in Arcade, 3D or Roger Wilco.


 Instant Game Patches
 No lines. No waiting. Just game patches and updates the second you need them.


 Custom Portraits
 Ditch the plain brown wrapper - make and upload your own Arcade player portrait.


 Unlimited Buddy List
 Make space for your whole clan -- add unlimited buddies to your PlayerSpy buddy list.


 Unlimited File Transfers
 Buddy got a file you need right away? Have ?em send it to you through PlayerSpy!


 GameSpy3D and RogerWilco Full Versions
 Subscribers get access to all of the subscriber benefits in GameSpy 3D and Roger Wilco -- 3 products for 1 low price!

GR users get this for $50 USD:

64 x 64 icon, drop shadow and bold name, auto away message, chatrooms, a private chat room.

sounds like an awesome deal

I've been on GR longer then many. If anyone comes and tell me I should pay just to support GR they are wrong. This is a travesty.  Evill really does know that this isn't worth the money. He compared it to .Mac in chat.

I'd be glad to pay as soon as it offers even a portion of what it should. I use GR for games not to chat. This Premium service badly needs repricing ($20 USD seems resonable for an icon/chatroom) or some additional services offered.

I'd like to see ingame voice chat (not nessesarily file transfers due to warez although maybe a size limit to allow mods and such to be sent)  or perhaps an offical way of implementing clans built in. That would be sweet.

Again I'd love to support GR. I have purchased products advertised on their banners. I clicked their banners sometimes just to make Evill feel better. I will not be blatently taken advantage of especcially if you consider the alternatives.

[EUR_Zaitsev]

Well Im not very high tech so I dont care for all the features and I am for sure not going premium and I will support Kevill when he offers this because its his establishment as long as these 2 things happen:


Premium cannot up your playing cabibilities like give you a better gun scope on RS or something

Evil also assured me that going premium will never be mandatory, he typed me in the eye (parady of looked me in the eye) and said Gaming will always be free at its basic level. Shoulda saved the Convo huh???

REGARDLESS is there a way to take the bold of the admins off and to ignore the chat games, I look for an open AOE2 thing that hasnt started and all I see is chats. Also are there any new things without premium that are of any use???

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

You are all lucky this isn't mandatory like it was feared it would be a couple years ago. However, the fear was only paying a couple bucks a month, not fifty.

After looking at the price, I think that Kevill got a little overzealous and is looking for a quick infusion of cash knowing that some of the hardcore people who still suck his dick (think along the lines of Utterer [is he still around?] and people like that) will purchase the new upgrade regardless of its lack of features and exorbitant price.

But there is no reason to worry about this unless the quality of standard gameranger starts declining and/or a mandatory paid subscription is implemented.

Colin: These feature's aren't even worth $20.

[Ace]

For the people who are bitching, will you please tell me how something that it no way limits my current capabilities with GR yet gives Evill more money to continue developing his product is a bad thing?

If you don't like it, don't get it. But for fuck's sake, don't bitch about something that is going to help you in the long run.

[kami]

I almost feel like paying just for the fact that premium members get their own main chat!

[Dragonic]

[V] SniperMan: hawk:dont u see what hes trying to do. when most people get premiuim the rest wil have to so they can join in the games too.

Evill: SniperMan, it's up to the host if they want to prevent non-premium users.

Pooner ?..uK: it's gotta be a 2 way street ot it is gonna end up being totALLY one way

[[[EUR]] HoloGram]

Hahaha this Idea is a joke - I have to pay for features that noone really needs.

examples:

- personal chat room ---> alternative : openig normal game and chat in it.
- Biiig Icon and mor pers. info : who needs this?? Is it usefull?
- Personal Name: good Idea - but not really great that would be worth it to pay 50 $ - and I like the old ID better - so U can see who is how long on GR.
- Ingnore of non prem. members: is BS b/c then after a while after a few ppl got this the way would maybe start to bann the others out of games so we would need the prem. too to get started.

[†FiRE Infection]

Colin, gamespy also has a lot more users, about 3 million at a time actually.  Now, isn't it a rare accurance that you see 400 people on gameranger at a time?  I think Gamespy can afford a little more.  If you want Gamespy, go get a pc, it's not fair to compare the two.

Also, what is this crap about boycotting premium members?  We felt like paying for extra features, it in no way affects you and you would have no reason to boycott us?  If you don't like it, don't get it, you'd have no reason to bother the people who like it.

50 dollars isn't a ton of money and the features are pretty neat.  You guys talk shit then ask me all of these questions about it and say how cool the away message is and tell me to put porn in my profile then I get banned  . (First premium user banned btw)

Just chill out, it's got some nice features and I also wanted to support the program that I've been useing for over 2 years now.

A lot of people ask me if I think it's worth it, it's really nice and the features are cool so if you have 50 dollars definately get it.  But keep in mind, this isn't necessary, it's just supporting a program that most of you have been using even longer than me.

[kami]

Yeah, I see it mostly as a way to support an app that I've been using for free for over 3 years.

[tasty]

Evill says that this is just the first round of premium features and that another update is coming that will add even more features for premium users. If you update now he says you will get any new features when they come out. I don't really like the idea of having to pay 50 each year, but I'm considering purchasing premium just to support Gameranger. Maybe when I finally find a job.

[Mr.Mellow]

Blah, just found this thread. You guys really need to get a hobby if you're whining about something that doesn't even affect you. I think I said this a million times already, but I'll say it again. Don't think of it as paying $50 for a few extra features. Think of it as donating moolah to Evill and getting some cool stuff in return. It's kind of like when you donate blood to the Red Cross, and after a while, they give you a mug. However, I'm not comparing the features to a crappy mug. Some of the features seem pretty cool. Anyhoo, guys, don't bite the hand that feeds you. Evill is giving you this for free, you only have to pay if you want to. Now let's all hold hands and sing, and maybe partake in kinky activities involving an orange or other citrus fruits.

[Mattster]

For comparison: GameSpy Arcade subscribers get this for $20 USD

In-Game Voice Chat
 Subscribers can use Arcade's voice chat even after launching a peer-to-peer or parlor game!


 Ad-free Gaming
 Subscribers never see banners or full-screen ads in Arcade, 3D or Roger Wilco.


 Instant Game Patches
 No lines. No waiting. Just game patches and updates the second you need them.


 Custom Portraits
 Ditch the plain brown wrapper - make and upload your own Arcade player portrait.


 Unlimited Buddy List
 Make space for your whole clan -- add unlimited buddies to your PlayerSpy buddy list.


 Unlimited File Transfers
 Buddy got a file you need right away? Have ?em send it to you through PlayerSpy!


 GameSpy3D and RogerWilco Full Versions
 Subscribers get access to all of the subscriber benefits in GameSpy 3D and Roger Wilco -- 3 products for 1 low price!

GR users get this for $50 USD:

64 x 64 icon, drop shadow and bold name, auto away message, chatrooms, a private chat room.

sounds like an awesome deal

I've been on GR longer then many. If anyone comes and tell me I should pay just to support GR they are wrong. This is a travesty.  Evill really does know that this isn't worth the money. He compared it to .Mac in chat.

I'd be glad to pay as soon as it offers even a portion of what it should. I use GR for games not to chat. This Premium service badly needs repricing ($20 USD seems resonable for an icon/chatroom) or some additional services offered.

I'd like to see ingame voice chat (not nessesarily file transfers due to warez although maybe a size limit to allow mods and such to be sent)  or perhaps an offical way of implementing clans built in. That would be sweet.

Again I'd love to support GR. I have purchased products advertised on their banners. I clicked their banners sometimes just to make Evill feel better. I will not be blatently taken advantage of especcially if you consider the alternatives.

Knowing as if your not a premium member Gr is free and if your not a premium member on Gamespy you have to pay $30. $30 plus the 20$=50$. And being a premium member on Gr is $50. There is really no cheaper one.

[kami]

Yay Mellow!

[Scott_Kevill]

Just a some notes on this.. it's in two parts because the script claimed it was too long.

For comparison: GameSpy Arcade subscribers get this for $20 USD

In-Game Voice Chat
 Subscribers can use Arcade's voice chat even after launching a peer-to-peer or parlor game!

Yes. This is valid.

Ad-free Gaming
 Subscribers never see banners or full-screen ads in Arcade, 3D or Roger Wilco.

Have you used GSA? This is a major "feature" because without paying, you're subjected to fullscreen movies every time you change rooms, or after certain periods of time, or doing just about anything. You can't cancel them either. It's a feature because they made the free version so obnoxious.

Instant Game Patches
 No lines. No waiting. Just game patches and updates the second you need them.

Again, this is a feature because they made the free option obnoxious. ie. FilePlanet. The artificial waiting and lines are their creation in the first place.

Custom Portraits
 Ditch the plain brown wrapper - make and upload your own Arcade player portrait.

Yes, you get this with GSA premium. However, with GSA free, you don't get ANY icon customization.

Unlimited Buddy List
 Make space for your whole clan -- add unlimited buddies to your PlayerSpy buddy list.

Again, this is a feature because they made the free version obnoxious. GameRanger's buddy list is not limited at all in the free version. Initially, GSA's free version limited to 100. Last I heard, they now limit it to *10* buddies. I assume that's true because they talk about "space for your *whole* clan." Pathetic.

Unlimited File Transfers
 Buddy got a file you need right away? Have ?em send it to you through PlayerSpy!

Yes, that's a valid feature. I question why the word "Unlimited" is there. Since when has direct file transfer between users in any online service been limited?

GameSpy3D and RogerWilco Full Versions
 Subscribers get access to all of the subscriber benefits in GameSpy 3D and Roger Wilco -- 3 products for 1 low price!

GameRanger is the equivalent of GSA and GameSpy 3D. Have you seen the server browser in GSA? Roger Wilco is in-game voice chat. They've already mentioned that before as a feature, and now they're mentioning the same thing again.