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« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2003, 06:38:52 am »

Bah. Shooting animals. Hope u also eat em then.

Of course.  And thoes against hunting can blow me, as it's part of my heritage and culture (the native american one).  And for the first smart ass that talks about using a bow and arrow, not only do I do that, but not all native americans used them either.

u cant really go hunting with a gun, there u need a rifle. a fucking gun is especially design to take away human live with it. its unnatural to have the permanent oppurtunity to take away someones live at home.

Two things.  First, my uncle hunts with a handgun all the time.  A .44 magnum will bring down a deer as quick as a deerslug from a shotgun will.  It just makes it more of a challenge to hit.  But he manages to get one the first day every year.  And he has never injured a deer and lost it (for those PETA fans).

Second, I believe I learned in my history classes that many men had to keep swords in their homes in the old days.  And produce them, shiny and sharp on holidays.  This was expected of all able bodied men, in the case that they were called to fight.  Seems I read this being a European thing.  It goes back between the dark ages and the Napollianic Wars.  It was also a custom with Americans back in the  old days too, when the militia was very important (going back to the war of 1812 and further back).   It's been much more of a custom from people to have weapons, like swords (which are meant to kill men too) in their homes.  This didn't happen when guns came around, it's a very very old tradition.  So, I think it's more unnatural to NOT have a weapon around.  Not that I think I need a weapon in my home to be safe.  Just poining out that people have kept weapons in their homes long before the gun or pistol was around.

Bander, it's nice to see that you can actually write without being a complete asshole.  I really don't see why you enjoy starting flame wars, but you do seem to love it, and you are good at it.

I'll let you know a little about me now.  

First, I didn't vote for Bush.  I hate him.  I can't stand him.

Second, I work as a consultant, trying to start my own business up right now.  I'm 33 years old with my first kid (a girl) due in 8 weeks.

Third, I have a Bachalors of Science and a Masters of Business Administration degrees.

Fourth, I speak more then one language too, German just doesn't happen to be one of them.  Besides English, I speak a little Spanish, Arabic, and Cherokee.  But I am very out of practice, I dont' get the chance to use them very often (besides using Arabic to order food).

Fifth, my brother in law is muslim.  Born in Lebanon.  I don't hate islam at all.

Sixth, and I'm surprised with all the conspiracy theories goign, nobody has pondered why I was a roomate with someone 3 years younger them me), I spent 18months between high school and college in the Peace Corps (yes, I will get mocked for that I'm sure).  In Honduras and Columbia.  Since I had school paid for with academic scholarships, I decided, being the liberal I was at the time, to go do the liberal thing and build homes in Central America.  It was long ago (back in '87 - '88), and the last time that I actually used spanish.

Seven, I've spent time in Mexico, Central America, South America (besides Columbia), England, Ireland, France, Itally and even Germany (but not Austria).  Plus some islands in the Caribian.  I've also lived in Canada.

So you see Bander, I'm not a Bush supporter, or an arab hater.  I was a liberal, but moved onto moderate.  And I'm not an under-educated kid.  I'm also not ignorant of the rest of the world.  

The only thing that does really bother me is stupidity.  The biggest examples I know of are biggotry and hypocricy.  So do me a favor and give the flame starters a rest.  Or at least bother to read my posts for real.

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« Reply #81 on: February 14, 2003, 06:41:03 am »

k bander, remember that time i pwned u with that post about how the u.s. rebuit the austrian army after ww2? didnt think so.
coss, the russians lost 25 million cause stalin was a moron. i'm not saying that the russians didnt contribute, they did i damned fine job all things considered.  i would proudly join the millitary if they needed me, and if i could. however, i have a disablility that prevents me from joining. i dont want war, but i see no other way. i really cant wait to see what u fucks will have to say when we are attacked again. i really cant. fuck all of you.
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« Reply #82 on: February 14, 2003, 07:29:53 am »

That Russian thing wasnt aimed directly at you spaz, it was more of a rant that traveled to that statement. We are on different sides of the political spectrum, it dosent take away the quality of your persona. People including me are angry that our government is opening our mail, bugging our phones. Watching us. That is what I dont like and I am protesting against it. I am in favor of hightened security, but not at the price of taking away those seemingly baisic rights. Increase the patrols, insert human intel into the field, but dont take our right to protest in the streets and tap our phones and what not.
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« Reply #83 on: February 15, 2003, 07:03:49 pm »

I agree no bad blood between us. We may have some conflicting views when it comes to Central Asia and the Caucuses. I hope thats what Afghans think, but I doubt it is what the uneducated sheep hearder in the Panjsir thinks.

I have much respect for Dudayeev he is a real patriot, but both sides have degraded themselves too much, that no one shows any moral highground.


i totally agree dude.

thats why i say: lets send the "uneducated sheep hearder from the Panjsir" to school, then to university. lets give em a chance to get back aducation and a future. lets involve these people into our "modern times" so we dont have to fear them anymore. and lets not give em a reason to hate us at all. that would be the perfect solution.

ok and as to afghans: my friend georgij is a russ too, he plays in a hardcore band called "sojut" (kewl hehe). i often talked with him about that already - most afgans already know exactly that they where only used as "marrionettes" from many, during the end of the cold war.

occupied by the soviets, misused by the americans, later by the pakistanis, then by the americans again (when the U.S. supported omar and the taliban movement), the rest of the story we all know Sad

afghans arent fanatic people unlike these al-kaida merchenaries around osama (the saudi man) - they may be sheperds and poor but they are really clever. even american soldiers admitted in a interview: the afghans are unlike other asian people. once u explained em one thing once, they know what to do.

i am very often very surprised about the keen political analyzis from some unknown old afghan men on tv, when being asked about the political ongoings.

even when the U.S. bombings took place most afghans where fully aware of what going on (not making any collateral damage any better). the best i liked was these meeting between afgan people who lost relatives during the U.S. bombings and american citizens who lost relatives in the 9/11 attacks. that was really touching everyones hearth.

maybe some guys dont get it straight: if i say "fuck bush" this doesnt mean the U.S. is fucked up for all time now - thats at last the reason for me why posting in such threads like this one.

tnx for your messages and postings cossak, i always like to read em ~

and to dudayew: he also impressed me in the beginning - but he revealed himself as an asshole pretty fast too. but i am pretty sure checenya is 2lost ground" for russland now - no way to forget for both sides. therefore: let checenya go (and what do u think about geaorgia? next crisis zone?)

peace ~

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« Reply #84 on: February 15, 2003, 08:59:32 pm »

They have a "domino theory meantality"  in Moscow. If they let go of Chechnya now, it will be Ossetia next, then Dagestan, and then Turkestan (area around city of Kazan). I dont know about "lost ground."
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