On the issue of lame bullshit. . .

[Typhy]

Ok, this is my problem.  These "BL Moderators Hazard and Infection" are going around doing CB's, and immediately turning them in, then waiting 5 days to update our wins.  They just CB'ed NERD clan 10 minutes ago, and already updated their win right away to of course, take away the #1 spot in RS, while we were in the Bar & Grill trying to get a CB going.  First we attempted to CB NERD, but they said "FUCK YOU NO".  I founded rather "loud" and just kinda shined it off.  I found it awkward since they CB'ed FiRE with np, but all of the sudden didn't want to CB us...    Hmmm...

Then we go to FrEaK to ask them to CB.  I set up a game, so everybody, including infection and hazard knew we wanted to CB them, and even hazard came in my game saying he wanted to CB subbing for FrEaK(I assume joking, but still, poor taste after I heard this:)

|?K|*R?p?d*: hey hey
|?K|*R?p?d*: wanna CB
|?K|*R?p?d*: a 3v3
happyJack.<GHC>!~frE?: lol
|?K|*R?p?d*: biteme = pword
happyJack.<GHC>!~frE?: wait
happyJack.<GHC>!~frE?: hey rapid
happyJack.<GHC>!~frE?: Im not cbing
|?K|*R?p?d*: yeah
|?K|*R?p?d*: k
happyJack.<GHC>!~frE?: I dont know who said they would
|?K|*R?p?d*: nobody yet
|?K|*R?p?d*: we calling you out
happyJack.<GHC>!~frE?: Lol
happyJack.<GHC>!~frE?: punk!
|?K|*R?p?d*: heh
|?K|*R?p?d*: all in love and good fun
happyJack.<GHC>!~frE?: I wanna have a Cb soon, but right now isnt the right time
|?K|*R?p?d*: np
happyJack.<GHC>!~frE?: its hilarious, btw,
happyJack.<GHC>!~frE?: I got fucking fire asses PMing me telling me to boycott you
happyJack.<GHC>!~frE?: lmao
happyJack.<GHC>!~frE?: gawd
happyJack.<GHC>!~frE?: asses
|?K|*R?p?d*: omg
|?K|*R?p?d*: no wonder
|?K|*R?p?d*: thx man
|?K|*R?p?d*: explains it all

Now fuck these "BL Mods" going around telling other clans "Boycott |?K|, don't CB them BS".  WTF is this shit all about?  This is the LAST WAY YOU'RE EVER SUPPOSED TO ACT LIKE.  Especially coming from these "Obsessed on winning  the RS ladder and looking like #1" FiRE Moderators!  This is far and beyond what these "BL Mods" should be acting like, and ask Mauti to pls look into this biased problem in the ladder.  

This is NO way on winning the RS ladder by telling others not to CB the true better clan!  

Seriously, new Staff is due for the BL.  Obvious problems are here, and not getting any better...  Just cooking up more to come...  

::?? Taken of this POST in case of it being "deleted"::

I'll quote that one over for Rapid, since the Problem Drop Box probably isn't the best place for it.

Anyways, where oh where to start. . . I really don't want to get into this issue, because I don't belive that I can gain anything by doing so.

But, while we're on the subject of lame bullshit, I would like to bring something up; the Battle League Points System.

To start, a quick look at the battle league facts:

|?K|'s Rogue Spear Record: 13-0.

FiRE's Rogue Spear Record: 13-3.

|?K|'s record against top 5 clans: 4-0.

FiRE's record against top 5 clans: 2-3.

The average rank of FiRE's wins: 17 ( 17.46153846 ).

The average rank of |?K|'s wins: 14 ( 14.46153846 ).

Record head to head: 1-0 AK. ( 7-3 Rogue Spear CB ).

|?K| Games won vs Games lost ratio: 2.1875 to 1.

FiRE games won vs Games lost ratio: 2.0575 to 1.

FiRE's winrate: 81.25% ( 13-3 ).

|?K|'s winrate: 100% ( 13-0 ).

The difference in wins between the two clans is a 0-3 record!

You will see that AK and FiRE are very close in all but winrate. When you look at AK's wins though, in comparison with FiRE, you have the biggest difference of all. AK is 4-0 against top 5 clans, beating all of them ( FiRE, *NADS, RnT, and TF6 ).  FiRE is 2-3, with at least 1 loss to every top 5 clan they've CBed. 2-1 against TF6, 0-1 against RnT, and 0-1 against AK.

All the stats go in AK's favor, and AK clearly has the better wins. What's the difference that makes FiRE #1 over AK, you ask? Quite simple, FiRE's CBs have been bigger.

Is it really right that a FiRE 3v3 against the last placed clan ( DAF ), gains them more points than a 2v2 AK win over the #1 clan? - Is that really right? Should among the top 5, all that matters be how big your CBs are? Or should you gain more points for beating other top 5 clans? Which is better, a 3v3 win for FiRE against the 0-6 DAF, or a 2v2 win for AK over the 13-3 FiRE?

Clearly this is an issue that should be adressed.
 

[†FiRE Infection]

Typhy will you stfu get on gameranger and say this bullshit to my face?  YOU DON'T GET IT THROUGH YOU HEAD, YOU NEVER SAY THE MEMBERS IN THE FIRE CB.  You've told me that you won't cb Hitman and you guys never seem to want to cb Xo, Psyks, Ejo or me or Haz?  And God you act like the RS ladder is active and the top clans are truly the top.  You're an idiot, you win 1 cb in the bl, you are in the top 5, don't act like these are the top 5 most elite clans ever.  If you want to talk about this get on gameranger, because you can't deny that the facts you've put up are deceiving.

And by the way, we didn't tell Nerd not to cb you guys.  They said Fuck no to us and told us to fuck off also then just came into a game and said lets go.  Don't hint at things that you aren't sure of facts about.

Also you act like we can't beat RnT, TF6, Nads or any other clan in a heartbeat?  We lost to RnT in the beginning of the season, let imat play for us and kill those noobs.  Nads, no offense but they are 1-2 on the bl, deceiving that they are in 5th and finally the TF6 cb we lost was also in the beginning of the season, we've cbed them twice I believe since them and won 6-0.  You give such deceiving statistics.  And we aren't the wons cbing the noob clans, you are.

[*DAMN Hazard]

First off look at my statement in the problem box.

Second. GET A LIFE, YOU BEAT OUR NOOBS STFU.

Your excuses piss me off so much. You won't let our best player play. "O he isn't a part of this community" but when we request Rapid to not be in the cb its the biggest fuckin deal in the world.

typhy you know you are full of shit. just the other day i made a bl update JUST ON YOUR REQUEST. WTF.

[.vooDoo.]

If you dont like the point system why dont you stop complaining about it and design one yourself. If you cant, then shut the hell up!

As for the "mods staff" being replaced...I have been nothing but fair to the AK clan and have supported you guys from the start even with Rapid and I haveing battles in the past. As for Hazard and Infection...no, they shouldnt be going around telling other clans to boycott you guys, and it is conduct unbecoming a bl mod,  but on the other had it is only one persons opinion and we will not surpress any opinions here. If we did, Typhy's and Rapids post would always get deleted.

[*DAMN Hazard]

I never said "boycott". I said "AK is the devil" as a joke. God you guys ruin everything, im goin to bed.

[.vooDoo.]

Rapid the true better clan?  I will cb anybody in your clan except you, because when you are in a cb there are only problems. (have fun saying it's because I'm scared of you)  Btw my reply to everything else can be found in the battle league news comments.

Rapid, any respectable  clan on the battle league doesn't want to battle you.  I seriously don't want to go into that any farther.

Omfg, wtf! Rapid go back and see my last update, if you do you will see 3 AK cbs that I updated ON THE REQUEST OF TYPHY. Sheesh, and I did make a comment to HappyJack as a joke and i said that "AK was the devil."

And Rapid everytime you set up a cb room or an AK only room I always come in as a joke. You take everything as a personal insult to you. Wtf man.

Nice post, Infection. Way to dodge the issue, I love how you don't adress what Rapid says, but merely dance around it with things that don't matter.

You've taken someone who origonal would have supported you ( myself ) and brought me to a neutral standing. You've also made me question whether or not you told people not to CBs us. Origonaly I would've said "Oh c'mon, I know Infect, he'd never do that", now I have doubts.

You want to get into saying who and who can't be in the CB between AK and FiRE? Ok, then I'll simply say no IP joiners. I spent 6 months in "ban land", so I know how it feels, and I regret that I have to take advantage of Xoclipse and Ejo due to the fact that they're ban, but, if you're going to say no Rapid, I simply say, no IPers.

I'm sure that Rapid would be fine with letting me and a few others take your GameRanger members on. Oh yeah, as well as IPers, if we're going to do this without clan leaders, you'd better be damn confident in your team, since you, Psyks, and Hazard sure as hell won't be there.

When I hear someone not wanting to CB against Rapid, I don't see fear, I see fear of Rapid, but fear of the clan. No one has problems with Rapid in CBs, you're much more likely to have a problem with me in a CB then Rapid.

So far, there has been 1 problem with an AK battle this battle league, out of 13 clan battles, and it wasn't a problem during the CB, but a problem with FiRE membership, that was discovered after the CB.

I know how this topic will end in regards to the battle; "Fine, we just won't CB". And that's fine with me. While I would love to have another battle against FiRE, because it would have some great competition, I am confident that my team and I will be able to find a way to win this battle league without having to go through FiRE.

Infection, you're my friend, you're a great guy, but your post has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. - I'll talk to you on GameRanger, if you have anything to say to me about it.

[*DAMN Silent Killer]

ok hi there are basicly 3 things that are in need of issue

Issue Number 1: BL Staf :   The battle league staff in my mind seems to work just fine, so what if they dont update the BL Ladder right away after a cb starts, do u honestly think that they want to do that , they have lives too.  Who cares the CB will be counted in a day or to who really cares.  if they update there cb's after they cb, thats because there online.......who cares.!~

Issue Number 2:  ?K being boycotted  :   Sad to say but AK really cant do much about clans not wanting to CB you.  Its most likely not because there scared, its because , no offence, when ever theres a problem with a cb, it usualy invoves AK.   The battle league admins tell other clans to not CB you???  Thats probably for 2 reasons.  1: they dont like how you act in GR, RS games, Foroms, and 2: They dont want to clean up BL messes that happens with "Cheap" or "Bad" cb's.

Issue Number 3:  FiRE Sucks:   It is true what you say "We are in top five",   it is also true what infection says, "You beat one clan your in top five" so theres really no point in that.  Ok now you say that AK is a better clan......i dont know how you got the "stats" but it obvously isnt true, so what if FiRE lost 3 cb's im sure your gona lose one to.  FiRE has alot of great members with alot of talent.  AK has a few good members with pretty good talent.  I dont see how you got these stats other than the BL stats you posted which means Nothing because the RS BL is very inactive.

-SK

[†FiRE Infection]

Sorry Typhy, I'll admit that I didn't read Rapid's post because I'm tired of it and I just took a shot at the dark that it was probably a Rogue Spear challenge, how I abuse my admin power and how I told clans not to cb you.  What I told you last night stands Typhy.  I didn't read his post, sorry.

[bronto]

Just to clear up why NERD wouldnt cb you right after they got donkey smacked by FiRE; No, it wasn't some kind of anti-AK conspiracy. My younger brother is the Snaggle NERD, and he just didn't feel like cbing twice in a row. Not everyone is always up to spend 20 games getting their asses handed to them by the top two clans (no offense NERDs). You're just in a different state of mind than other people when it comes to Rogue Spear, Typhy. Also, i was in a game with like 3 or 4 Freaks in it, and you came in and said "come on Freak, 3v3 cb, lets go" like it had been arranged already, while none of the Freaks knew anything about it. I'm not trying to offend you or anything Typhy, but that's not how you can go about getting clans to CB you. Maybe you should just try another approach at it.

[Casper]

Not everyone is always up to spend 20 games getting their asses handed to them by the top two clans (no offense NERDs). You're just in a different state of mind than other people when it comes to Rogue Spear

Hey, is that saying we have no lives? If it is i havent been in any Cb's in a long time and i have not played except on my b-day when my freinds and me had a lan party set up at my house.

[bronto]

Hey, is that saying we have no lives? If it is i havent been in any Cb's in a long time and i have not played except on my b-day when my freinds and me had a lan party set up at my house.

When in my entire history of posting did i ever mention anything about you having no life? To break it down for you, i was explaining how FiRE and AK are much more competitive in Rogue Spear.

[†FiRE Infection]

Bronto, Casper is a little slow

[Casper]

Ok i just thought normally when some on talks about Ak and "Not everyone is always up to spend 20 games getting their asses handed to them by the top two clans (no offense NERDs). You're just in a different state of mind than other people when it comes to Rogue Spear" normally means something along the lines of no life... But ok good

[AK_Rap1d]

I'll admit that I didn't read Rapid's post because I'm tired of it and I just took a shot at the dark that it was probably a Rogue Spear challenge, how I abuse my admin power and how I told clans not to cb you...[/color]

Why should read it anyways?  It'll just prove how you're wrong, and leave you stunned with no comeback.   Very typical of Infection...

Of course so is trying to get other clans not to CB us.  

Bronto, that's fine that NERD didn't want to CB.  What wasn't fine, was Infection telling you guys not to CB us.  Sure NERD had other reasons as they stated, but that doesn't take away the fact this idiot BL Mod tried to get them and FrEaK's not to CB us and boycott us.   That's what's wrong.

SK, he's a BL admin and has no right to tell others not to CB us.   The problems we've had in the past, was due to trouble makers bringing drama our way.  Of course, we had no problem defending ourselves, and came out victorious in all those arguements.   Now of course, if you mean, "Argue with |?K| when you're wrong, and know you will lose" is what you meant to say, then yes, that's true.  Come lying about shit, and we'll be the 1st to correct you.

Mauti needs to come in and regulate on this fucked up behaviour by these "BL Mods"...   This is plain BullShit...

[†FiRE Infection]

Rapid, you "win" arguments because you never stfu, people are tired of listening to you.  And Rapid what are you talking about leaving me stunned?  I think I left you pretty stunned with that challenge to stop making childish comments with bad words and talking about Rogue Spear ownage.  You were lucky Mauti got pissed off and locked it.  Now you are going right back to Rogue Spear "ownage" and cursing at me and calling me gay for some reason.  What do you have against homosexuals?  I suggest you start going back to not cursing and saying how you are an elite Rogue Spear player, because I care to hear neither from you if you want me to respond.

[AK_Rap1d]

You telling other clans not to CB us when you're a BL Mod is what's wrong here. (Mauti WARNED you not to pull BS against us)  

It doesn't matter if they didn't take your advice, the fact you went around telling clans to boycott us and not CB us, is what's wrong.

Mauti, You warned Infection from pulling BS against us, and sure enough, a week or 2 later...   Right back at it...   You need to punish them and show them you mean business.  

Right now, they act as if they're innocent and play dumb.   The facts are there Mauti.

[bronto]

i can't stand to see all these sexy people fighting.

Yes, Infect and Hazard are in no position to be telling people to boycott Ak. These posts always turn into flame wars about who's clan is better or who's a pansy ass noob hobosexual that rapes red eyed tree frogs in nigerian jungle terrain type areas. It's just alot of stupid crap. If you have a problem with the mods, it might be better to just message it directly to Mauti and let him deal with it.

Bronto, it turns into Rapid calling people names and saying his clan is better.  Nobody else.

[†FiRE Infection]

So Rapid what do you think you're gonna get done?  Me banned from the battle league because I'm boycotting you?  That is being done as a clan leader, not a battle league admin.  The two don't coincide.  

This is like the mayor telling a police officer he is going to get fired because the police officer had an issue with the town and handled it as a citizen.

You don't understand, you don't control the battle league or Mauti.  I'd sure love to hear what he has to say about this.

[AK_Rap1d]

So Rapid what do you think you're gonna get done?  Me banned from the battle league because I'm boycotting you?  That is being done as a clan leader, not a battle league admin.  The two don't coincide.

If you don't want to CB me because you're scared or "boycotting", fine, but don't go around telling other clans we're trying to CB, NOT TO CB us and then tell them to boycott us.  That is being done both as a leader and a BL Admin.   The only problem is, as a BL Admin, you're in no position to be telling other clans not to CB us.  (Especially the way you were doing it by PM'ing the clans who's name was in our Games open for the CB's.  You're in no position to be telling others not to CB us.)  I don't care if that's not the reason they didn't CB us, but I sure the hell know it had a lil impact on their decision!  

You're here to Encourage more CB's, not discourage so less CB's are done!

Mauti, let Infection know how wrong he is to be a BL Admin, and to be telling other clans to NOT CB us and BOYCOTT us.  Also notice how he always avoids the direct accusations, and tries to double talk  to confuse others.   It's obvious he knows he's wrong and is trying to avoid the real issues.  

I'm sure you don't run a BL where you wanted BL Admins to encourage boycotting other clans.  That's what I'm talking about Mauti.  Let this guy know, and make an example out of his poor behaviour.

[†FiRE Infection]

Rapid, what are these direct accusitions that you are making against  me that I ignore?  The only accusition I hear is me telling clans not to cb you.  I'm boycotting you and so are many other leaders.  I'm not sitting around waiting for you to look for a cb then telling members not to cb you.

Also I had no effect on the decisions of clan leaders at all, I asked Jack if he was going to cb you and he said no.  Then I told him how much I don't like you.

Now what is this you've talked about Mauti warning me about pulling bullshit on you?  Mauti has never warned me and I have never pulled bullshit on you or your clan.   Maybe Mauti just told you he yelled at me to shut you the fuck up because he's tired of all your emails getting people in trouble  He talked to me privately with the bl admins about updating inccidents if that is what you are referring to but he never said he thought I was a bad admin or pulled bullshit on AK Rapid.