If you are a true mac user, please read this

[bronto]

i read up to there and decided he was a moron. now when you bash macs with facts, it's ok. but when you start making things up, you're a moron. ALL imacs have internal v90 56k modems. here's my version of this quote for pc users (like myself):
No such thing as an "intelligent user" with a PC.

[kami]

There are lots of bad things about both mac's and pc's, most arguments on this list are just stupid though.

By the way, what the fuck is a youth paster?

[*NADS Capt. Anarchy]

someone who glues kids together.

[kami]

Ah alright, thanks for clearing it up a bit.

[(SiX)Ben]

You alright Kami? Looks like your throwing your head against the wall rather hard there.

Ben

[Typhy]

Well, just a quick comment regarding the "I'd rather talk to a Mac person than a PC person" bullshit: It's very sad if you base who you talk to, off of what computer they use, instead of personality.

[jn.loudnotes]

First, a quick comment on people's signatures. . .

Kami, generally images are not allowed in the signature section, as it slows load time for non-broadband users.  Please put text there.

And typhy, you misspelled "knelt"  

Anyway, where's this non-backwards compliant idea coming from?  I can still run Netscape 2.0 and Resedit 2.1.3 on my Mac 9.2 just fine.

Those are my two oldest programs, from 1996 and 1994 respectively.  I've never been forced to upgrade. . .Jaguar is the first OS that really requires that, and it's not like PCs haven't had at least a few OS changes that have done the same.

[Typhy]

Man, I've had that sig for about a month now, and no one has pointed that out until yesterday, when 2 people did, now you do today, Loud. I will change it ASAP.

[Jeb]

Don't make me dig up the link to the fact about how statisticaly more mac users have college educations than the pc counterparts. i also read something about your more likely to be hit by lightning than get a virus on a mac.
Oh and anyone running win 98 or 00 should go here

[cookie]

cookie calculus time  
PC= pron/ warez machine, piece of shitty plastic running even shittier software, crashes, illegal operations (wtf??), cheap crap, complicated for no good reason, 500000000 x 10000 x 3042016781 drives, stupid OS names (ahem, longhorn), for the uneducated, monopolizing, too many unnecessary directories, GODDAMN UGLY, and last but not least


for jerkfaces.

[Agent Wallabie]

   PC's really arn't that bad. VIO suck ass but the IBM's are great. On chrismas got a VIO and the peice of shit broke the next night. So i had to get a IBM and it's the best laptop I've ever owned.
   Most of ur reasons why PC's are better then Mac's are crap, and the same to why PC's are better then Mac's.
   So let's all just get allong  

   Wallie~

[kami]

Alright, I'll remove it then. I'll just get an equally cool avatar  

And yeah Ben, I'm alright, I do that all the time.

[ShadowBox]

    Ok. As for when this so called macs suck tyraid was written, I'll gaurantee you that it was before the release of the Biege G3 (ie 603 to 604e days).

    To the part about the no external monitor bs or whatever it was, there where very few Macs released prior to the Bondi Blue iMac that where all in one units.

    Since the coming of the "Power Mac," you could make a lot of changes internally, hard drives, optical drives, ram. It's just easier for many people to expand externally.

    In the days when the only way to have a modem with a Mac was externally attached to the modem port, most PCs used an external modem attached to a serial port. And besides, the Mac was one of the first manufacturers to have 56k modems standard on every model, and was the first company to make built-in ethernet standard on their consumer line.

    As for software, at one time the only way to get it was from mail-order, but that is no longer the case. And as for the fewer titles available for the Mac, honestly what are we lacking besides some of the newer games. We don't need a hundred different word processors, 4 of them give us adequate choice.

    In this day and age, unless you are an extremely hardcore gamer with the money to go out and get every new game as soon as it hits store shelves, the Mac is a very viable platform for any task(photo, video, edu, bussiness, games)

[Cossack]

Another way you can tell that the article was outdated is the fact that he says apple companies are falling. Apple makes its own hardware and software. Before in 1998 the last "other" mac company that was baught out by apple was power computing, wich by the way was a god damn good company (they actually came up with the prototype of the G3 right before Apple baught them out). I once owned stock in Power Computing, and when they went under, I sold it and baught Apple (under my father's guidence of coarse).

[(SiX)Ben]

Kami, oh, ok, that explains a few things...

Typhy, you also spelled "from" "form". You might want to change that as well.

Cookie, I got pwned by calc here. Put that in Lamens Terms please (that was sarcastic, I understood what you said... I really did get pwned by calc though)

Ben

[MacMan]

One mouse button, less functions
Some Macs have monitors built in to the machine, bad if you need to replace or upgrade the monitor
Hardly any software available for Macs compared to software available to PCs  
Hardly any hardware available for Macs compared to hardware available to PCs
Existing hardware/software for Mac is usually very costly
Macs themselves are very overpriced
Macs are at a huge disadvantage for business uses
Only one choice of operating system
Almost all drive additions are external
No such thing as an "internal modem" with a Mac
Most software you will probably buy for a Mac is from a mail order catalog(pay shipping, wait)
The subject of games on a Mac is a frontier larger than America in 1492
Market share of Macs is extremely low, and declining (That means Mac users are an endangered species)
Fewer ports behind a Mac, can't add most ports via expansion cards
Far less Mac developers compared to the amount of PC developers(Probably more Java developers than Mac)
Few ISPs provide access for Macs
The "IBM-Compatible" Macs were the most sorry excuse for a clone
No such thing as a visible file extension for a Mac
Automatic eject floppy drive works very illogically, manual button much simpler
Many public schools are shifting from Macs to PCs, less market share, but smarter kids
Macs take forever to boot up
PowerBooks catching fire
Can't have wallpaper backgrounds
Macs have slower CD-ROM drives(Even high end Macs come with 4x, and PC users can enjoy 12x and soon DVD)
Macs only use SCSI-2, no UltraSCSI, IDE, ect.
Macs lack preemptive multitasking
The Mac OS is 12 years old
Apple is in terrible financial condition
Apple related companies are also floundering

Philosophical Reasons to Hate Macs
Mac users are easily offended (No doubt about this one)
Little babies like Macs (corny kid software abundant)
Most rich snobs use Macs
Any computer that smiles at you can't be good
If you make a computer that morons can use, only morons will want to use it
The Apple Macintosh logo is a rainbow-striped fruit, suggesting....
Squishy Bearz hate Macs
Macs have a reputation as the "Family Computer" (Blegh)
Dave Thomas (Satan) uses a Mac to record all of his junior bacon cheeseburgers sold (15 so far)

-Horsecrap, you can perfectly well use 2 button mouses, and if you dont have one, use control-click
-If you need to replace a monitor, it was probably broken, if it was broken, it wasnt worth having in the first place
-We have all the important software, for god's sake, i dont need viruses, or spyware
-More bullshit, i use PC133 SDRAM made for PC's in my iMac, which has a PC100 RAM slot.
-"quality over quantity" mean anything to you?
-Macs have a huge advantage for business uses, you have a more stable platform, easy wireless networks, and if you need specific windows software, there is always Virtual PC (i'm doing exactly this for a business right now)
-Untrue, there is also linux for Apples, with virtual PC you can even install Linux for Windoze, or BeOS, O/S 2, anything. For god's sake who wants Windows anyway?
-How old is this piece of crap? Even with the first PowerMac tower you could expand your ass off internally.
-This must defenitely have been written in 199-something, All macs nowadays have internal modems, and back when they didnt, neither did PC's.
-No it isnt, there are plenty of stores where i can buy Mac software (though not in abundance..)
-Well, we do have to wait for most games my microsoft, like Halo and AoM, now i wonder why they would slow it so much? Could tey be trying to make macs less attractive for gaming?! Nooooo, of course not!
  For the rest, i have Ghost Recon, MOHAA, well, to sum it up, there are plenty of games.
-last time i checked market share 5% and climbing.
-this came to the author in a dream? even my old Performa 400 has the back filled up with ports.
-bah, so?
-welcome to the year 2002, the ISP can kiss my ass, i'll configure the mac right in 95-99% of cases
-why would we want IBM-compatible macs?
-do we miss the annoying file extensions? i think not.
-what exactly is illogical about selecting a disk on the desktop, and choosing "eject"?
-ok, i jusr read ahead a bit, and found some crap about macs having slow CD drives, and no DVD-compatibility. Made me realise that this is really one helluva old story. Mac medium-high ends having DVD burners standard nowadays.. so i'm taking this as a sign that the rest of the non"philosophical" reasons for not using a mac are bullshit, and outdated.
Read ahead a bit more, and think the so called "philosophical reasons" are just the author trying to piss mac users off. none of it makes any sense, and most of it is not even close to "philosophical"

[MacMan]

Mainman, whoever linked you to this, must still be living in 199-something (when did they have 486 CPU's?)
have him on MSN or AOL and i'm sure anyone on GR could eat his ass alive (figuratively speaking).

Sorry for the double post, i couldnt add this to the last message, it was already too long.

[|MP|Cringe]

Not only that, but Macs were also the first to get rid of the floppy drive, since it held to little anyway, and the first to start making built in cd burners standard.