A vote is in need, Mauti please respond...

[0 Kilz:M:]

Well here is my problem:

I was under the impression that the *DAMN BL was for Mac players. I know it does not say the Mac BL, but anyways. We have PC clans participating in cbs, and I think it is totaly unfair because they have the option to use PC cheats during the cbs which us Mac players cant compete with. Does anyone else think this is wrong? I dont want to cb a bunch of pc players who use aimbots and god mode, its just not fair. If we continue to let these ppl come into this BL it will soon be run over with all PC cheat whores and eventually ruin the BL. The clan NiX is PC, I bet they never lose, watch them play sometime and see, its ridiculous. But anyway, just my opinion, please dont let this turn into a PC whore heaven.

[penguinboy]

The clan NiX is PC

Kilzo, why do you say we are pc? We are on gameranger, and we play through our macs. Regardless of whether we have a pc or not, how does that make us "a pc clan". Please expand before imposing threats on us. And by the way, Urban Opeartions has liitle or no cheats for it, as compared to Original Rogue Spear, which has many well known hacks.

[Jeb]

kilzo,
i've seen them on gr, and i haven't seen them play, but aparently they are good, just because a clan is good doesn't mean they bought PCs and ip join cbs in order to use cheats to win. There are no known cheats for RS:UOs at least to my knowledge. The reason pc players are called cheaters is because there are more exisiting cheats for Regular RS, since urban ops came out as a bonus addon that had to be bought separately.
Just because a clan is good doesn't mean that they are cheating, look at kos.

[†FiRE Infection]

I was under the impression that they were aliasing, they have brand new accounts all of them and they say they just got rogue spear, now they are owning people with head shots, I'm not saying that is cheating (unless they are in other clans which is against bl rules)  I just want to know who they are.

[<FiRE> Deathshead]

i didn't have a problem killing nix, had brain got a few kills we probaly would have beatn them. i averaged slightly over a kill a game. they're killable, they're also good players. i've seen them on gameranger. so please, if you can't play the game well, just shut up and don't blame it on others.

[0 Kilz:M:]

ok, I agrre UO was a addon, bought I bought mine with it included so it wasnt bought seperately in my case. As for: Just because a clan is good doesn't mean that they are cheating, look at kos.  Well KoS has been around forever and have well skilled veteran players, these guys all have brand new accounts and play just as good if not better than KoS, that to me is very suspicious. And for: And by the way, Urban Opeartions has liitle or no cheats for it, as compared to Original Rogue Spear, which has many well known hacks. That is a statement from someone who has been around, not some n00b that just got RS.

And Penguin, Im not throwing out any threats, Im just making a suspicious situation known. You cant just come out of nowhere and blow away clans the way you do. I remember a certain clan named |CF| which was made up of vets pretending to be n00bs while in other clans. As well as {M}, in either case whether or not you are pc players is irrelevent as long as you join through Gameranger and not IP. I just dont want to see this BL get flooded with PC clans who can and do use hacks...I apologize if it sounded like I was accusing you of something, but from what I have seen and heard, there is alot more to your story than you lead us to believe. Your headshot count is just way to high  .....and I seem to remember KoS accusing a clan of cheating a while back when they got owned with all headshots. n00bs dont own with them, vets do for the most part...so tell us NiX: Who are you really?

[Bondo]

I don't believe allowing PC players creates any problems with fairness.  The only question would be, should they be allowed seeing as this BL was based around Mac gamers.  One thing is required and that is that the clan host its games through GR because it would be wrong to force the other team to IP join.  But as long as one person is playing through GR, there really isn't a problem with IP joining.  We've allowed it up until now so I don't see why that should change (unless Scott makes it not work with GR).

As for accusations that this clan is made up of vets from other clans, yes, it has happened before.  But just because they are good and appeared from nowhere isn't proof of that.  Maybe they just bought Macs and had been playing on PCs and that is why they are good.  There are any number of logical things that could say they aren't cheating.  With that said, if you find proof that they are breaking BL rules, at that point you can make your accusations.

[Typhy]

*Remembers CF* Those bastards got me ban, thanks Deadeye .

[Jeb]

typhy,
how has nix caused any problems in comparison to whatever deadeye did to you. The only thing about it is that kilzo is complaining because he thinks they cheat because no noob could get headshots without a aimbot.
Just outa curiousity... wasn't there a virus guy who said he was starting from a new?

[0 Kilz:M:]

Yes Jeb there was, but Virus plays with respect and are well liked ppl. These guys are off the charts rude, constantly spamming and talkin trash non-stop, ols Virus players wouldnt do that. Also I believe some n00bz can get a headshot, sometimes! Not ALL the friggin time, and Im not complaining, fine if everyone agrees they are good guys than so be it. I was just looking out...

As for NiX : We will never CB you guys until you can play without spewing nonstop insults and grow up.

And Deathsheds comment: so please, if you can't play the game well, just shut up and don't blame it on others.
Dont even start, as we were beating the crap out of you and fire 4-1 you start calling us cheaters and glitchers and make us do over shit cuz you got owned. And there is no way you would have beaten NiX, you were like a walk in the park compared to these guys.

[†FiRE Infection]

And Deathsheds comment: so please, if you can't play the game well, just shut up and don't blame it on others.
Dont even start, as we were beating the crap out of you and fire 4-1 you start calling us cheaters and glitchers and make us do over shit cuz you got owned. And there is no way you would have beaten NiX, you were like a walk in the park compared to these guys.

Kilzo, I seem to remember beating you in that particular clanbattle, even though you used storage depot and were up like that, when we got to an even map you guys didn't beat us once.  Then I seem to remember another cb the night before where you used the same exact map and we killed you on that in a 4v4.  A clan isn't good because they can win 2 out of 3 clan battles on storage depot by close scores, you guys should be undefeated using that map.  I will also admit NiX are better players then us, because they are people aliasing but still, if Deathshead, Hazard, Pritt and I played them I'm sure there would be a  little different outcome in score from the Deathshead-Brain cb, with people who haven't played together.

[.vooDoo.]

I unlocked the thread because I want to hear more of what people have
to say about this issue or if someone has some proof.

[Supernatural Pie]

it was xo, rob, and ejo, right?

[Bondo]

I suggest that anyone with interest in this issue go read the BL news on the BL page that I just posted.  I now consider this topic closed.