What it takes to lead a clan

[Brain]

ease up man, all i was asying was that i have never seen rapid make a joke that wasnt at someone else's expense, ok?
sheesh, we are all way to uptight here

[KoS Ultimo]

try joining a clan as a regular member, it is relaxing after leading one

True... but it also can be very fustrating. If you have been a clan leader for a long time... you look at certain things diferently then your current clan leader. Usually, you will get in arguements about how he is running the clan, and eventually the shit will hit the fan. Cuasing you to get pissed off, and start another clan. It's a vicious cycle.

[Jeb]

As a clan leader, i'd say that the best thing for keeping people happy is taking sugestions. or making rules for them to cb and things. give your players responciblity and choices, and they won't feel like all they do is CB.

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

True... but it also can be very fustrating. If you have been a clan leader for a long time... you look at certain things diferently then your current clan leader. Usually, you will get in arguements about how he is running the clan, and eventually the shit will hit the fan. Cuasing you to get pissed off, and start another clan. It's a vicious cycle.

One of the reasons why I abstained from joining another clan after PsYcO tanked. Ihave/had my own philosophies of leading a clan that no one else would understand unless you have played in my system.

[Brain]

True... but it also can be very fustrating. If you have been a clan leader for a long time... you look at certain things diferently then your current clan leader. Usually, you will get in arguements about how he is running the clan, and eventually the shit will hit the fan. Cuasing you to get pissed off, and start another clan. It's a vicious cycle.

you know, there is an easy way around that, just stop carring... no seriously
if you make a consious attempt not to care it is vary relaxing

[*NADS Capt. Anarchy]

word up to that, brain. I started doin that.... lemme see... almost a year ago now.

[Jeb]

One more sugestion...
Make a clan that as a  Joke (ie. Cunt)
this way no one will expect anything from you, plus its mostly a funny time. It just so happens that my little joke is filled with only the best jackasses

[Night Hawk]

Task, was a joke, we started out good and then because everyone was not on at the same time period except 1 of the 3 leaders, we fell apart. kilzo could not do it alone. this is an example of a failing clan. Just because everyone is not on for a certain time period of 2 weeks or so, doesnt mean everyone should just leave the clan.  Once 2 of the leaders pretty much left and the other good peopel left, i decided to leave knowing that i had nothing left.  But clans such as ?K and Kos and some others, they dont leave because of most their players arent on.

I dont know why i brought this up really, but it shows how most clans die. Either its because their best bud left, their best player left, or everyone left.   Just one more thign a clan should do........................not to fall apart from one person.

[GokuSniper +sTfU+]

Cossak,NH,Kilzo......you guys are my best friends on gr.....and just becuase besides us our clan was noob filled doesnt mean i should have left.I always want to stick with you guys becuase rs isnt about winning,its about hanging with your friends and having fun.So nomatter where we are remember the good times and how we are friends.Cossak,sorry for posting off the subject.

      -Goku
          was
            here-

[Night Hawk]

Yes i was hoping the same goku. but after us 3 went to 3 different places, what we gonna do.

[AK_Rap1d]

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[Jeb]

a little factoid on Cunt's history...
it all started after i was fresh outa a clan break up (mi6, damn noobs). and i was talking to Assassin about what clan to join, and he talked about how Psyco was a joke at first, and i got to thinking. so i talked to my nizzos bigpat, and pyrex. and Cunt was born. Originaly, we decided on the name, cause the tag looked so cool. then we were forced with figuring out what CUNT would stand for, So its the Crazy Urban Noob tkers. Thinking of making a joke at first, with 3 close friends online is a great thing, it took tons of stress of leading the clan for me. Recruiting for clans should be based of personality, and quality. i've been lucky enough to end up with alot of my close Gameranger buddies in my clan, even though they were in different clans when we started (dvs, crom, briger, fassst,  and bung) its a great thing when a clan is made of people who just chill. Its sorta a blessing that all the shit worked out right.

[AK_Rap1d]

Here's a lil history for yah...

When I was a demo player, I seen a group of people that called themselves a "clan" and I thought that was pretty cool. ?Being that I was such a noob and nobody knew me other than those that I played with in RSD, I wasn't able to join some of the bigger clans that were already out. ?Typhy was in the same position as me and wanted the same thing. ?He started wearing |AK| for Alaska and since me and him got along rather well and did excellent as far as teamwork, I decided to wear |AK| too, but decided to make it stand for |Another Killer| instead of Alaska. ?This helped this movement be the start of a "clan". ?Soon we decided this would be our clan and I was nominated #2 and Typhy #1. ?People started modding maps for RSD and we all started playing them and it was getting funner. ?At this point I offered to make us a website, which included all our original members (who were all RSD players). ?We CB'ed HKSDU for our first CB and beat them 6-3! Things were going great other than Typhy having problems with the new maps and them crashing his cpu. ?His parents eventually were over the crashing and banned him from playing RSD. ?This is when he told me that he was leaving |AK| and leaving me with the leadership. ?At this point we had recruited a good group of guys and I decided it would be cool if I took leadership and kept this clan going since we were already known for doing well together. ?I then nominated Monk as #2, and decided to change it from |AK| to |?K| ?Also, I changed it to mean |?ggressive Killers|. ?At this point Typhy asked me if I would be interested in joining his new RS:UO clan since |?K| was only RSD at the time. ?I told him no since we had talked about going out and buying full version to compete against better competition rather than the noobs in RSD. ?After seeing that we were stuck on sticking with |?K|, he asked if he could get back in. ?I said of course ?We then started working on team tactics and recruiting more players in search of the ultimate ELITE team. ?Our search proved that we were able to gather a group to get the job done and even win the BL in 3 separate ladders ?Today, we enjoy what we first got here to do, and that is to have fun with some |?ggressive Killings| in a teamwork fashion ?While we are getting a slow start on this new season, don't count us out... ?|?K|, here to stay thanks to the friendship bonds between players we have built over time...

[Jeb]

Rapid... mb your idea of fun is  agressivly killing people. but i'd say its more fun to joke around

[AK_Rap1d]

Good for you Jeb.

We have plenty of fun with |?ggressive Killings|

Also, remember around April when we announced Ghost Recon for the mac (Ultimo remembers ). ?That was mighty fun on everyone's reaction ?Even Evill's! ?Well, not so much Evill since he banned me for it ?Check it out! Ghost Recon for the Mac announced on April 1st! http://homepage.mac.com/akrapid/GhostRecon.html

[AK_Rap1d]

Well Myst, here's that lil prank that I pulled live and direct

[Typhy]

I am back and ready to battle!! Yay!!

[Typhy]

It truley takes a dedicated person to lead a clan. TASK fell apart after we won 2nd in the BL. It was on steroids. It was aging four times as fast as other clans. So where did I go wrong? It lasted for 1 pitiful month. Someone give me tips on leading a godddamned clan.

First off, I agree with Grifter, that the faster that a clan grows, the faster that it dies. I started and commanded AK. The main key I think is to get 2 active members. Who are willing to train people, recruit, and battle. I think that the development of AK was helped by the fact that we started in RSD, and also because we didn't join the battle league for 3 1/2 months.

-Typhy

[*DAMN Hazard]

ive never lead a clan but wut ive learned as a clan member is u must be strong and good at the game to be a leader. if ur in a clan and you can beat ur leader and he makes u a private r u gonna stay in the clan? no. i once had a leader and i threatened to leave and rite there he gave me a promotion. that was a sign of weakness so i left. that clan went down like 3 days later. no one will want to join a clan were the leader has no talent. then i joined a clan that u had to work for a promotion. so i was loyal and i worked and got a promotion. this made me respect my clan leader. like someone said earlier u need your member's respect.

[Brain]

i personally believe that there should be only 3 ranks in a clan tryout/nee member full member and the founder/leader

then give everyone equal say, let everyoone debate the issues, and then the leader should act on the information/opionins gleaned from these debates. of course this system also allows snap decisions to be made when needed
the real challenge is to for the leader not to be come a dictator, but to remain on the same level as the rest of the clan