What it takes to lead a clan

[theN00b]

It truley takes a dedicated person to lead a clan. TASK fell apart after we won 2nd in the BL. It was on steroids. It was aging four times as fast as other clans. So where did I go wrong? It lasted for 1 pitiful month. Someone give me tips on leading a godddamned clan.

[Grifter]

Wow, I didn't realize that TASK went under....

One thing I've noticed around GR Cossak... the faster a clan grows, the faster it falls.  Clans that let a bunch of people in when they start up usually don't survive very long.  The clans that have made it past the year mark pretty much took a long time to grow.  

You guys started with 3, that all got along and wanted the same things.  You should have only let in members that wanted the same things you three did....  if that makes sense to you.

[theN00b]

I want my own pool with jellyfish and sharks in it. So I should make a clan for people that want a pool with jellyfish and sharks in it? (sorry for the lame joke people)

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

I would tell you the PsYcO model for making a perfect clan, but then I would have to shoot you. (For all of you smartasses out there, PsYcO died due to me not being able to log onto GR much anymore)

[*NADS Capt. Anarchy]

The best way to be a clan leader is not to say "omg yes we are number one and we will pwn j00 all!" Or maybe that's just the way to be a respected clan....

seriously, slower is better. if everyone in your clan likes each other, it helps. *NADS had only 2 members for a  month or two, and it took several month to get up to our total membership of 6.

It also helps to not be a 12 year old whiny bastard who goes fuckin nuts when something unpleasant happens.

[.vooDoo.]

Wow, I didn't realize that TASK went under....
You guys started with 3, that all got along and wanted the same things. ?You should have only let in members that wanted the same things you three did.... ?if that makes sense to you.

That could be the #1 reason to keep a clan together grif, an not to mention not being an asshole leader and listening to what ur members want.

It also helps to not be a 12 year old whiny bastard who goes fuckin nuts when something unpleasant happens.

And dont take in whiny members, they only cause a threat to bring down the inner structure of the clan

[Mr.Mellow]

Yeah VD, don't take in whiny members.. heh heh heh. I think the most important rule to keeping a clan alive is to keep control of how many members join your clan..VD and Mike (from AgT) were smart and have a restriction on how many people can be in the clan. It keeps the clan closer together and less chaotic, because you don't have a new member jumping in everyday. The smaller the clan, the better(Most of the time). Oh, VD, got some news for ya too..PM me whenever you're on GR. m00t!

[Bondo]

The best way to keep a clan together is to have all of the members go inactive for a year so that there is no reason for them to leave the clan .

Happy 2nd Anniversery DAMN.

[Jeb]

Consider (unt, when we started up, we had like 4 people for 2 months. we are in month 7 or 8 or something... just don't let the clan grow to fast, and try to get as many buddies as you can in your clan.

[KoS Ultimo]

Jeb.... there is no way Cunt is only 3 months younger then +-KoS-+

What I did was this..... First, ask one of your best buds to start a clan with you. For me, it was Geek USA. You have to know he is loyal, and is willing to work for the clan.

Second.... you have to recruit people you get along with. Even if they aren't good... you teach them. Don't be demandfull, or they will get sick and tired of your rules and leave the clan.

Third, look for talent in unlikely places. At the time, ElectronicJo and Tech n9ne weren't even considered for clans. I recruitted them because they had great personalities. Now look at them.... probably any clan on GR would take them in... (if tech and ejo were willing to).

The most important thing to learn is to bring people in who are your friends. As soon as you bring in people because of skill, they are demandful, and when they don't get what they want, they leave your clan and make everyone esle leave too. It's a vicious cycle.

 

[Brain]

too true ult
taf had the same problrm, when i let ppl based in on skill they wanted this, or that, and when it it didnt happen now, they got frustrated and left

we started with about  4 ppl because i had been in clans that had died because of lack of participation
so we added another 2 the next day

actually taf is still running(i left because i dont have time to play with them any more) athough there are only 3 ppl left now...and taf has survived (so far) both leaders having left the clan, cool huh?

[Bondo]

I think the reason so many clans don't last is all about patience and commitment.  Many players these days don't really know what being in clans is all about.  They are there strictly for the game and not the friendship and so they don't care about the clan other than it meeting their goals.  Sure, at times I wished DAMN was more active, but I didn't run and leave because despite it not completely fitting what I consider the ideal because the people in DAMN have become more than just the people I play with.

[Jeb]

ult, me and bigpat started (unt with in december...
it is now june, that = 7 months. sorry i didn't want to do the math.

[KoS Ultimo]

I started +-KoS-+ June 26th 2001

[.vooDoo.]

The most important thing to learn is to bring people in who are your friends. As soon as you bring in people because of skill, they are demandful, and when they don't get what they want, they leave your clan and make everyone esle leave too. It's a vicious cycle.

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indeed, i agree

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

There needs to be a balance between skill and personality...more of one will bring down the other usually.

But essentially what is being said here is correct...

hehe Ult, PsYcO: 11/01/00

[Kilzo]

Well Cossak, here is what it takes, (and btw, why do you always refer to yourself as the Leader of TASK? As I recall it was me who left ?K and you guys joined with me to form TASK, so remember it was US not you.) It takes alot of time and effort, something you didnt have. And its a good thing it fell because I went about things wrong. I started to let anyone in that had any skill, I was so proud of us that ppl wanted to be a part of it. That hurt TASK and caused alot of stress, fuck I was so sick of babysitting.

Also our co-founder Hawk was never here as well, I think his motives were different then ours. Also Goku and Elim leaving for stfu, they wanted me to go with them, but I wasnt sure if they were all serious or not so I said I would join them if they left. And when they really left I thought to myself ?Well a good Captain always goes down with his ship? So I stayed until there were no more.

Now I see you have to take it slow, and thats what I am doing along with oNe. We are molding our strukture around that of SECT, and with any luck we will be a dominant clan someday. We are now *D$ = De?th $qu?d....

L8r all yall killas

[BTs_Mysterio]

DS will fall like task

[Black Sheep]

quality over quantity, and i speak from the experience of watching a clan disintegrate around me.

a clan with 30 crappy players stands no chance against a clan with only 5 elite players. because when it all comes down to it, these arent wars, they're skirmishes. 5v5 not 30v5. a small well groomed clan will always outlast the clan with the 247 members because that small clan is a family and they know eachother as well as they know themselves.
true, skill is important when choosing members, but personality is paramount.  if a clan can work to gether like a well-oiled machine they'll win their cbs and last for years.

as for the leaders, when you think you cant come on enough to lead the clan, (assassin) or if you make some really stupid mistakes(romulus) pass the clan to your second in command,  I'm sure CIA would still be around if rom had passed it to me,  i'm sure i would have made a fine leader, but a part of me is glad i didnt get the responsiblity, i much more enjoy beign a gear in the machine rather than the man pressing the buttons.

on another note, SECT uses a council system which i belive is probably the safest way to rule a clan. no actual leaders just votes...

P.S. im gonna miss seeing you around assassin.

[Jeb]

About the personality part of the clan. That is what makes (unt great. Haveing fun is why people join clans, and i think that having a great asortment of jackasses, and commedians, who can own at rs is a vital aspect of a clan. A clan should be the people you hang out with, and have fun with when your on GR. not just people you tell to Cb. Also, since i'm best friends with bigpat in real life, it makes things alot easyer to manage and comunicate, since i've known my second in command for a long time.