Relations with China..a new page

[BTs_GhostSniper]

I was asking about the thirteen generals rallying against Bush..and whether you thought they were Traitors or Heros..

Oh, I should listen to the thirteen generals against him, instead of the thousand that support him?  Now that don't make no sense at all.[/size]

[(SiX)Sheixhundt]

Your'e quite the enigma, wrapped in a noodle.

Ive not heard ONE military buff EVER say theyd favor and back a war dodging civie drafting war plans over the objections of company men. Supporting Rumsfeld sounds more nuts to me..but thanks you for your honest opinion..sorry for baiting so hard.

[80proof]

Oh , man was watching it on cnn pipeline.... I cant believe it, what a disgrace....  Of  course this happened after Hu Jintao Humiliated the Entire US by visiting THE ENEMY(bill gates) before the president of the USA. Well im not to mad about that... This may offset relations with China for a long time..... and It will be more dificult to endure talks about Balance of Trade, And their long time controversy over Taiwan...

[DAMN Bondo]

Yes, this is just one more example of Bush dropping the ball on diplomatic relations. However, at the end of the day (or term in this case) Europe, China, etc is not going to flat out bail on the United States. If we get a leader with some degree of tact and actual interest in the concerns or cares of others, it will not take long to heel rifts.

As to China specifically...there is a really good chapter about them in the book "Why Geography Matters?" by Harm de Blij. Basically, China certainly can't be ignored, but it is also problematic to fear them as the next Soviet Union (granted, it was also problematic to fear the Soviet Union in the way we did). Rather than take a bellicose line, we just need to keep friendly relations and apply soft pressure in the right direction. Unlike Bush, I have more confidence in democracy to win out, we don't need to push it, we just need to encourage and nurture it, even when it doesn't always look promising to us such as with Hugo Chavez or Hamas winning democratic power.