I'm just going to sit here and wait for WWDC to see the shocked look on the face of 2.5 buyers when they see apple screw them by releasing Dual 3s. Then again, 2.5 is good, but to pay top dollar to see apple pull a apple and do the 3 at WWDC could prove funny.

Again, apple didn't do this right. This being the release of 2.5 when they said 3. They shouldn't have said 3 or they should have just over clocked this liquid cooled beast to make it at-least 2.6-2.8.

No its a 90mn chip. Smaller than the last one.

THERE WILL BE NO 3GHZ AT WWDC!!

It will be 6th months till the G5 update or if it is like the last update then it will be a year.

Well, you could always buy ME one (cause I don't have the money to burn).  

Ya, Voods, you may want to go ahead and place that order, they might backorder the 2.5 GHz G5's if you wait until after WWDC. But who knows.

Yup  

Using the single 1.8 -> dual 1.8 bump to justify any rumors about 3 GHz processors coming soon is stupid. Adding a second 1.8 GHz processor when you already have the dual mobo ready from the 2 GHz is a trivial task. Going from 2.5 GHz to 3 GHz is such an immensely more difficult process. Basically, the former was a marketing decision, while the latter is a technical problem.

hehe sorry i forgot to enter the [sarcasm] comments - i was so busy entering all the things that apparently handn't changed and thus ment that the the new versions were just 'the same machines overclocked'.

I will remember next time

Ok time for a unbiased list... don't look at me that way.

Good
-It's faster
-It has decent graphics cards
-They didn't use that cheap fake design we saw before
-The G5 boxes are now slicker

Bad
-No ATI X800 or NV 6800
-No PCI Express (that isn't PCI-X)
-Still low ram for low end
-Couldn't the G5 boxes have been made into 1 shield instead(not like the fake one, like this but no cut)

Ugly
-Liquid cooling shows that the 90nm has some heat problems
-Liquid cooling in notebooks?
-Cheap Graphics card for LOW end
-Only one all new system

Questions raised
-Why didn't they wait for WWDC?
-Why did they make such a speed gap between 1.8-2.5 when the prices don't reflect that?
-Who's in-charge of Apples Graphics Card choice? NVIDIA's new better chip is 100% mac compatible if it is manufactured.
-Will Steve dare show his face at WWDC?
-Can Apple get the G5s into the Powerbooks? Are they the big WWDC news?
-Could the all dual leave room for a G5 iMac? G5 cube?
-New G5's=New Displays?

Comment
-The 90nm G5 isn't a NEW thing. You keep saying it was a great revolution for the G5s, but it happened in January with the Xserves.
-I don't know much about liquid cooling, but I just picture a lot can go wrong if it's used in portables or desktops that are moved a lot.
-I still ask WHAT THE HELL?! Why is the 1.8 and 2.0 expensive in comparison to the 2.5? Is this a ploy to make us buy the top end machine because it looks more bang for buck? Way to manipulate steve.

There. Done. Happy?

The PC world has been using liquid coooling for yrs now.. w few if any major probs that I have heard of. So I dont see why apple should not take part in using this technology to cool the computers.. Mybye they will make a newer powerbook that wont burn your leggs if you use it too long!!