And all these things you know for a fact, you got them from a reliable source ?
Btw as a documentary-maker you can never be objective, they way you shoot something, edit something, what questions you ask, these things have an effect on the "truth".
As for the "pro-gun", couldn't it just be he just "changed his mind" for the sake of the second interview?
Moore is making people think how this government is being run.
I still think it's a good thing.
You have propaganda on both sides here.
And one side has more money and more power than the rest of the world.
Moore is a bit like average Joe.
I'm all for average Joe.

This thread started about Bush and a sailor... Now it's about beer shits and pig look-a-likes? I'm confused.

I agree with Alaric.

Moore absolutely has a right to his opinion, and also to express that opinion.  I don't exactly disagree with the points he raises, but I dislike the way he decides to present them.  He's an ambush journalist, and his flagrant selectiveness in the information he chooses to divulge is far too biased to be of much use for me.  He tears things completely out of context and rearranges them as he sees fit (Heston, anyone?), and at times refuses to even acknowledge counterarguments to his assertions.  Knowingly withholding pertinent information from his audience makes him come across as a conniving and deceitful bastard, to me.  He paints his nice little picture of the state of things today exactly how he wants to.  Fine, whatever, he can do that if he really wants to.  But I know many people who shut off their brains when watching his stuff and blindly accept every word as truth (the whole, indisputable truth), and fail to realize that there may be (and, in fact, probably is) more to it than what Moore has stated.  If he can't even attempt to be objective about the material he is discussing, it's usefulness is extremely limited.  He's coming out with a new movie soon (Farenheit 9/11, I think it was called?), and while I wouldn't at all discourage viewing it, just realize that Moore's truth is probably only half of the real truth.

There's a website called Bowling for Truth (http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/main/about/moore.htm) that I came across a while ago, and while I realize that some of the material on the site may be about as one-sided and without impartiality as Moore's material is, I do tend to agree with much of what he says in his "Who is Michael Moore and Why Do I Loathe Him?" editorial.  And here (http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html) is a quite long and comprehensive refutation of many of the deceptions presented by Bowling for Columbine.

http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/scenes/bank.htm

They talk about the whole thing being staged and not portrait accurately.
Off course he could have made a 30 min special about him opening an account, the bank doing a backgroundcheck, him filling out loads of papers .....
Unfortunately this is the opening sequence of the movie so there is no time for that

Fact remains YOU DO GET A GUN WHEN YOU OPEN AN ACCOUNT THERE.
That was the only point he tried to make, and he made it.

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Exactly. Which is why I think it undermines his cause to twist the facts even more. He's only hurting his cause.

I realize all media has bias and often twists facts to suit their needs. My point was just to point out that Moore is just as bad as the rest of the media. And that you shouldn't put any more stock in what he says than you would in Fox News or CNN.

You seemed to hold him to some higher standard, as if he was somehow different than the rest of them. I just wanted to show that he's no different and is at least as despicable as the rest of them.