*DAMN R6
.:Navigation:| Home | Battle League | Forum | Mac Downloads | PC Downloads | Cocobolo Mods |:.

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
September 30, 2024, 07:20:30 am

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
One Worldwide Gaming Community since 13th June 2000
132955 Posts in 8693 Topics by 2294 Members
Latest Member: xoclipse2020
* Home Help Search Login Register
Pages: 1 [2] 3   Go Down
Print
Author Topic: British Diplomats Attack Blair in open letter  (Read 2661 times)
0 Members and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.
cO.gabe
Sr. Member
***
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 344


<< Auto Away Message >>


« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2004, 12:19:24 am »

Btw, did anyone get any info on what Bush, erm, Cheny actually had Bush say today before the 911 Comis?

No, I think they are saying that it was a private meeting and therefore will not be going into detail about it.

Logged

"The day I tried to live, I wallowed in the blood and mud with all the other pigs... And I learned that I was a liar, just like you."
BTs_GhostSniper
Moderator
God save the Royal Whorealots
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3807


SUA SPONTE


WWW
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2004, 01:02:53 am »

(I knew Blair was a liberal....how else could you explain him liking Clinton so much during the 90's?)
I hate to break it to you, but the vast majority of American's liked Clinton. In fact, the vast majority of the world liked Clinton. "Rockstart President" comes to mind ... (all double entandras intended).

Dude, you are living in another world if you think the vast majority of American's liked Clinton.  That is as far from the truth as anything I have ever read.  Maybe the vast majority of LIBERALS liked Clinton.....but I hate to break it to YOU, most Americans are NOT liberals.
Logged

"On the fields of friendly strife are sown the seeds that on other days and other fields will bear the fruits of victory."

-General of the Army Douglas MacArthur
"Sixhits"
*DAMN Supporter
Forum Whore
****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 888

Monkey see, monkey do


« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2004, 02:01:13 am »

From '98

"The Monitor/TIPP poll found that Clinton's overall approval rating stands at 57 percent, while 40 percent disapprove of the job he is doing. Three percent were undecided."

http://www.tipponline.com/articles/97_99/csm/Mo100998.htm

From '99 (the height of the Repub smear job)

"But even so, Clinton's personal favorability rating dropped notably, from 59% in September to 48% in the latest survey, as Americans appeared to be drawing a distinction between job performance and the president's personal character. His unfavorability rating increased to 45% from 35%. Half feel he has the honesty and integrity to be president, whereas 41% suggest he does not."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/timespoll/la-980125internpoll,0,3784221.story?coll=la-news-times_poll-nation

Here's a gaff from Infoplease, and online Encyclopedia:

"Paradoxically, however, in spite of the scandalous outcome of events, Clinton's overall popularity among Americans remained high. The country seemed willing to ignore his weaknesses in character, much as they did in the 1992 elections, as long as the economy was good, his policies were popular, and the United States remained strong abroad"

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0760626.html

And the kicker from USA Today, 5/26/2003:
Respect for Clinton rebounds among Americans

"Bill Clinton now ranks as this nation's third best chief executive, according to a recent CNN/USA TODAY/Gallup Poll.

Only Abraham Lincoln (chosen by 15%) and John F. Kennedy (13%) finished ahead of Clinton (11%) in the April poll, which asked Americans who was "the greatest" president. George W. Bush managed to tie Clinton for third place."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/2003-05-26-wickham_x.htm


And here are Bush's current numbers:
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
Do  you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?
46% approve, 47% don't approve, 8% don't know

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushFav.htm
Is your opinion of George W. Bush  favorable, not favorable, undecided, or haven't you heard enough about George W.  Bush yet to have an opinion?

Fav 38%, unFav 43%, undecided 18%


just some numbers ....

Even during Clinton's darkest days he still had a hell of a lot of popularity, both personally and in his policies. As for Bush ....

His current number are:

"According to a recent poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, George W. Bush's overall job approval rating has dropped to 43 percent, down from 56 percent in mid-January. While these numbers can change quite rapidly, the most alarming figure is that only 40 percent of Americans approve of the way the Bush administration is handling the conflict in Iraq, with 53 percent outright disapproving. This number has dropped significantly since January lending credence to the theory that the mounting attacks against primarily U.S. forces have disillusioned the U.S. population."

http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_report&report_id=157&language_id=1

Bush's numbers are lower now than Bill during the Monica scandel and impeachment. Sorry to break it to YOU GS, but most Americans aren't fundamentalists, conservatives,  or right-wingers - they're MODERATES.  Wink
« Last Edit: April 30, 2004, 02:09:44 am by "Sixhits" » Logged

"Perhaps, the most important thing to remember about that which we are faced with: Fascism, at its core, is a fraud. It promises the triumphal resurrection of the nation, and delivers only devastation. Strength without wisdom is a chimera, resolve without competence a travesty."
"Sixhits"
*DAMN Supporter
Forum Whore
****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 888

Monkey see, monkey do


« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2004, 02:13:54 am »

One other thing: Clinton's numbers staid consistant over 8 years, only dipping in '98-'99, unlike Bush's which were seriously inflated by 911. We're now seeing the real Bush numbers, rather than the "any port in a storm" numbers.
Logged

"Perhaps, the most important thing to remember about that which we are faced with: Fascism, at its core, is a fraud. It promises the triumphal resurrection of the nation, and delivers only devastation. Strength without wisdom is a chimera, resolve without competence a travesty."
Cossack
Special Forces
God bless the freaks
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1086


SEMPER TRANSFUEGA


« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2004, 02:28:54 am »

GS, it also depends on where you live. I am sure if I talked to people in Biloxi, Mississippi (or wherever it is you live in that state) that the vast majority are not too fond of Clinton. However, if you go on the streets of Austin, Texas or any other urban portion of our nation you will find that many people approved of the job Clinton did.
Logged

BREAD LAND AND PEACE!
R.I.P Grifter
BTs_GhostSniper
Moderator
God save the Royal Whorealots
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3807


SUA SPONTE


WWW
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2004, 04:09:53 am »

HELLO ALL IDIOTS WHO EVIDENTLY CAN NOT READ:

I said "LIKED", not "approved of his job performance."  There is a BIG difference.  Hell, that guy was so immoral that most people had to rush to the bathroom to wash the filth off after they shook his hand (ME being one of those people, by the way).  The military fucking HATED HIS GUTS.  Christians couldn't stand him.  And although the majority of Americans (that were polled....hardly proof to me) thought he performed his job to their satisfaction, they did not "LIKE" him.

Learn to read.

Peace.

-GhostSniper Out.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2004, 04:16:01 am by BTs_GhostSniper » Logged

"On the fields of friendly strife are sown the seeds that on other days and other fields will bear the fruits of victory."

-General of the Army Douglas MacArthur
Ssickboy
Full Member
**
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 157



« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2004, 04:34:04 am »

Omg He's got a gun!  Run for your lives!  Shocked
Logged

Retire Bush
Cossack
Special Forces
God bless the freaks
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1086


SEMPER TRANSFUEGA


« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2004, 05:04:45 am »

Well I am a christian and I thought he was a good president.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2004, 07:44:56 am by Cossack » Logged

BREAD LAND AND PEACE!
R.I.P Grifter
Ssickboy
Full Member
**
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 157



« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2004, 05:21:06 am »

psst... (Cossak... hide dude)
Logged

Retire Bush
BTs_GhostSniper
Moderator
God save the Royal Whorealots
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3807


SUA SPONTE


WWW
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2004, 03:41:30 pm »

Well I am a christian and I thought he was a good president.

EXACTLY!  "Thought he was a good president."  That's my point.  A lot of people "thought he was a good president", however, that is not what I'm talking about.....I'm talking about how many people actually "LIKED" him, like as a person.  I think John F. Kennedy was a great President....but hell, he was just as immoral as Bill Clinton (at least JFK actually banged a few women in the White House....Bill Clinton wasn't nearly the playboy he was).  So while I think JFK was a good President, I do not "like" him much as a person because of all the immorality in his life (but at least he really was a war hero, quite unlike Bill Clinton....so JFK gets extra points there).

By the way, here is the tribute page I made for JFK several years ago:

John F. Kennedy
Logged

"On the fields of friendly strife are sown the seeds that on other days and other fields will bear the fruits of victory."

-General of the Army Douglas MacArthur
*NADS Capt. Anarchy
Forum Whore
****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 733


fear my suck!


« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2004, 06:00:21 pm »

GS, do you realize how silly your point is? How many people can actually spend time with and get to know a president before they decide if they "like" him or not? Very few. And if you just read the papers, what do they report? Everything negative, of course. You can't judge a person by reading about them in the papers. The only way to get to know them is to spend time with them. But I will grant you that his morals were twisted and disagreeable.

And I hate to break it to you, but most Americans are NOT conservatives. If you look at the last presidential election (Which Al gore won the popular vote in, by the way. Yea, that means a MAJORITY voted for him.) everything hinged on ONE voting district in ONE state. I'd say that shows a pretty much 50/50 split.

My grandparents are Catholic. Just about as Catholic as them come. And you know what? They're against Bush and against the war. Funny how that works. My best friend is the biggest bible thumping redneck you will ever meet. It took about fifteen minutes for me to convince him with straight facts and quotes that bush is a moron.

But he's not a moron. He's a puppet.
Logged

*NADS Capt. Anarchy
Leader, Founder, Ownage incarnate
Clan *NADS
BFG
Global Moderator
Emperor of Spamness
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 6521


Mr.Chuckles the Nipple Monkey


« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2004, 07:04:15 pm »

Quote
verything hinged on ONE voting district in ONE state
that wouldn't be the same state as that inpartial brother of George presided? A one mr Jeb bush? ...
Logged

"You cant fight in here gentlemen, this is the war room!"
AA:MoD
BTs_GhostSniper
Moderator
God save the Royal Whorealots
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3807


SUA SPONTE


WWW
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2004, 07:12:09 pm »

And I hate to break it to you, but most Americans are NOT conservatives. If you look at the last presidential election (Which Al gore won the popular vote in, by the way. Yea, that means a MAJORITY voted for him.) everything hinged on ONE voting district in ONE state. I'd say that shows a pretty much 50/50 split.

I never said the majority of Americans are conservatives.  I simply said that the majority of Americans ARE NOT LIBERALS.  Another big difference that you guys who can not read didn't get.  Also, when you are talking about majorities in voting, you also have to understand that only a majority of the PEOPLE WHO VOTED, voted for that person.  Not everyone who can vote, does vote.  Which is a really bad problem in this country.
Logged

"On the fields of friendly strife are sown the seeds that on other days and other fields will bear the fruits of victory."

-General of the Army Douglas MacArthur
"Sixhits"
*DAMN Supporter
Forum Whore
****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 888

Monkey see, monkey do


« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2004, 07:32:38 pm »

The majority of Americans would likely self-identify as moderates with a political affiliation. Sadlly, the Republican party has no room for moderates anymore.
Logged

"Perhaps, the most important thing to remember about that which we are faced with: Fascism, at its core, is a fraud. It promises the triumphal resurrection of the nation, and delivers only devastation. Strength without wisdom is a chimera, resolve without competence a travesty."
BFG
Global Moderator
Emperor of Spamness
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 6521


Mr.Chuckles the Nipple Monkey


« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2004, 07:34:53 pm »

Quote
Not everyone who can vote, does vote.? Which is a really bad problem in this country.
 And alas not just a problem in the US... here as well as many other countries. daft isn't it we take for granted somthing that so many people die fighting for ... the ability to have a voice in the politics of your country...
Logged

"You cant fight in here gentlemen, this is the war room!"
AA:MoD
BTs_GhostSniper
Moderator
God save the Royal Whorealots
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3807


SUA SPONTE


WWW
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2004, 10:41:49 pm »

OMG....I just read two posts in a row (From Sixhits and BFG) that I actually agree with.

It's the end of the fucking world.

***GhostSniper runs for his bomb shelter....
Logged

"On the fields of friendly strife are sown the seeds that on other days and other fields will bear the fruits of victory."

-General of the Army Douglas MacArthur
"Sixhits"
*DAMN Supporter
Forum Whore
****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 888

Monkey see, monkey do


« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2004, 11:35:50 pm »

I thought you wanted the world to end ...
Logged

"Perhaps, the most important thing to remember about that which we are faced with: Fascism, at its core, is a fraud. It promises the triumphal resurrection of the nation, and delivers only devastation. Strength without wisdom is a chimera, resolve without competence a travesty."
BTs_GhostSniper
Moderator
God save the Royal Whorealots
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3807


SUA SPONTE


WWW
« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2004, 01:05:16 am »

I thought you wanted the world to end ...

Of course I don't want the world to end.....yet.  There are still so many things in life I havn't done:

1.  Torture Typhy to Death.

2.  Bitch-Slap VooDoo

3.  Live Long Enough to let BFG See the Error in his Ways

4.  See Season 4 of Alias

5.  See Star Wars Episode III

6.  Ummmm....did I mention Torture Typhy to Death?
Logged

"On the fields of friendly strife are sown the seeds that on other days and other fields will bear the fruits of victory."

-General of the Army Douglas MacArthur
BFG
Global Moderator
Emperor of Spamness
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 6521


Mr.Chuckles the Nipple Monkey


« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2004, 01:08:56 am »

Well ghost... shocking isn't it!!

I don't think thats going to happen very often...
« Last Edit: May 01, 2004, 01:16:47 am by :MoD: BFG » Logged

"You cant fight in here gentlemen, this is the war room!"
AA:MoD
Mr. Lothario
Special Forces
God bless the freaks
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1748


Suck mah nuts.


« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2004, 01:13:25 am »

     You're looking forward to Episode III? Oh Ghost, how I pity you.
Logged

"How is the world ruled and how do wars start? Diplomats tell lies to journalists and then believe what they read." - 19th-century Austrian press critic Karl Kraus

Rule 37: "There is no 'overkill'. There is only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload'". -- Schlock Mercenary
Pages: 1 [2] 3   Go Up
Print
Jump to:  



 Ads
Powered by SMF 1.1.7 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC
Page created in 0.061 seconds with 19 queries.