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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2004, 08:06:18 am »

I want my country to fucking kill Binny. Why are we in Iraq when we haven't got the bastard? That's my simple question, one which frames much of my personal scorn, and I think liberal scorn in general, in regards to the conquering of Iraq and the half-assed search for Binny.

Sure, American forces never stopped looking for Binny. But it is also true that a vast number of troops, material, and intellegence resources was switched from the battles in Afganistan and the search of Binny to prep the war in Iraq, and later to fight it.

I buy that catching Binny is hard work. So why weren't we balls out trying to get him? With the current efforts, it seems like the Administration has had no real interest till now in catching Binny,  and then only for politcal expediancy. It's shameful, shameful in a way Clinton (or any hated liberal) never was.

Actually, I think you have a little of the cart ahead of the horse.

You see, we agree how hard it is to catch Bin Laden, and it is going to take a long time, not troops, but time.  So, instead of looking like you are doing nothing, you attack the guy you know you can find.  Clinton used to bomb Iraq every single time Monica was on Page 1.  Bush just took a page from that book, and figured if it was going to take years to catch Bin Laden, he didn't want to look helpless, so go beat up on the normal punching bag.  

Yes, believe it or not, the war wasn't all about oil. (that's to some of the liberals that keep saying it was ALL about oil).

So, as long as you can't catch Most Wanted #1, while you are still looking for him, you send others out after Most Wanted #4.

But, for all that, I don't think it has hurt the hunt for Bin Laden at all.  Like I said, that will just take time.

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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2004, 07:50:54 pm »

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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2004, 10:16:56 pm »

Actually, I think you have a little of the cart ahead of the horse.

You see, we agree how hard it is to catch Bin Laden, and it is going to take a long time, not troops, but time.  

I think it was Kennedy who spoke best about doing the difficult things and not postponing the problem: "...not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too."

Basically, Bush has side stepped the hard part (catching Binny), and guessed, wrongly, that Iraq would be en total a piece of cake.

Now we hear tell that the US has delt with Pakistan, a contry which we know now was trading nukes and the necessary tech to make nukes to members of the axis of evil (Iran, N. Korea), by giving them a free pass. Oh, you sold this shit that we invaded Iraq for maybe possilbly possessing? Well, um, we need toget Binny really really badly now. What if we, like, ignored that nuk-le-ar stuff, and you let us put troops on the ground?

Is it ok to pass the buck like that? To dodge responsiblity? To engage in epic hypocracy? I don't think so. True leaders stand up and do what needs to be done and then they do it. Liars stand up, open their mouths, and flithy green/gray shit comes streeming out.
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