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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2003, 03:47:38 am »
Because Congo is in a civil war and all the of the factions and countries involved in it (yes, there are troops from Zimbabwe and other countries int he region) can equally attack the other unlike the Kurds against Saddam.

Anyway, the reasons for this war aren't solely about the people of Iraq, we are also afraid that he will someday use one of his WMD against the mainland US and that is unacceptable. If the leader or whoever did the massacre int eh Congo was in full power, had WMD,a nd was a sworn enemy of the US, I guarantee you we would go in there too.
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2003, 05:41:06 am »
Quote from: PsYcO aSsAsSiN on April 07, 2003, 03:47:38 am
he will someday use one of his WMD

That are yet to be found...
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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2003, 08:33:31 am »
There is enough circumstantial evidence that has been uncoverd thus far for me to believe that he has WMD. Atropine injectors, chem/bio suits, weapons training facility...no nation would ever have such material if they did not in fact posess chemical and or biological weapons.

You also forget that the main hunt begins when his army is no longer a threat and we conduct our own style of inspections with commando raids.

It is only a matter of time before we pick up one of his weapons.
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« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2003, 09:45:10 am »
loud, i just want to point out thati said it would be TEMPTING to shoot him in the liver. just like it is tempting to strangle some of the morons i meet in everyday life. just because it is tempting doesnt mean i'm goind to do it.

i believe i posted the most 'humaine' way (if you can apply humain to this sort of a dicsussion)

i nowhere in my post clamored for blod as you so elloquently put it. i mearly stated what i believed was going to happen. (and you can bet that if we do put sadaam on trial, there wont be a coalition judge presidin, i would bet a scottish, irish, swiss or other more neutral judge will preside)

so, does sadaam deserve to die? i think he does, only we shouldnt do it. i say hand him over to the people he has bombed and gassed, and then walk away. they have the righ to  cry for his blood. are we doing wrong if we let them have what they want?
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« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2003, 09:57:53 am »
if they do a good job hunting him down like they did with bin laden, i guess it can only be years till they find him... IF they find him...
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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2003, 10:16:09 am »
I doubt Saddam will be as hard to find as Usama is.

I think my suggestion is the most fair, give him to a couple of kurds and let time have it's course.
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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2003, 05:24:50 pm »
I think Sadaam should retire in New Jersey. Actually I kind of hope he lives. My inner journalist would like to interview him. I could care less how he dies though. There have been rumours that he died 6 years ago from cancer. Most likley he will just disappear.
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2003, 06:41:56 pm »
...the saddam-bin laden analogy seems to be quite popular here.

a)saddam is a head of state, bin laden is a terrorist and a fugitive. a head of state leaves quite a paper trail and relies on more ppl than a terrorist.
b)bin laden lived in a cave somwhere in the mountains with only a select few ppl who know where he is, whereas saddam is in baghdad surrounded by his gang of crooks. also, i doubt his doubles are gonna be very useful: who in their right mind would want to pose as a guy who is being sought after by the entire US military, especially when that guy isnt in control of the state apparatus anymore. there arent any osama lookalikes.....ever wonder why?
c)osama bin laden can be tried in front of a US court on terrorism charges. prosecuting saddam via the court system is much more problematic. he belongs in front of the ICC in my opinion, but neither iraq nor the us signed the treaty, so its not gonna happen.

bottom line: if saddam is still alive, which is not 100% certain, hes got less than month to live.
the dumbass should have gone into exile in saudi arabia, chilled on the beach with idi amin and discussed what its like being a murdering sociopath-dictactor, but no.....he aint goin' out like dat!! so if you ask me, he deserves nothing less than what hes gonna get: a bullet in the skull. and brain, that guy would get a court-martial, hed get a medal. saddam is fair game.

and congo-zaire is a complete mess that cant be traced back to one single (alive) person....mubutu, the cleptocrat, got overthrown at the time of the rwanda genocide, after which all the hutus who had participated in the massacres fled to congo, which was in chaos, to avoid being prosecuted. also, about 5 or 6 neighboring countries sent there army in, which made things even more messed up......its a tricky situation and there is little the US could do to stop the tribal massacres, like the one this morning. also, as somone already said,there is no security risk to the US.

and bondo: stop saying he has no wmds. the US, USSR, Germany, France, Italy etc. all sold him weapons, including chemical and biological. hell, france even tried to sell him a nuclear reactor!! he would have nuke today, if it was up to the french. we know he had the stuff in '91 (this is not disputable) so tell me where did it go???
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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2003, 11:07:29 pm »
Quote from: abe on April 07, 2003, 06:41:56 pm
and bondo: stop saying he has no wmds. the US, USSR, Germany, France, Italy etc. all sold him weapons, including chemical and biological. hell, france even tried to sell him a nuclear reactor!! he would have nuke today, if it was up to the french. we know he had the stuff in '91 (this is not disputable) so tell me where did it go???

I only said none have been found, not that he didn't have any.  And add the US as a country that sold him WMDs.  Perhaps he disarmed?  And in reply to Sin, perhaps he has those from back when he had them.  There is no doubt he HAD WMD, I simply state that it has not been proven that he HAS them.
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« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2003, 09:51:14 am »
i dont think it will be all that easy finding him. mb he is already gone...
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« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2003, 10:03:53 am »
After the last bombing run that leveled a series of houses, he is probably gone....but we wont know until we recover a body like we did of "Chemical Ali" in Basra.
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« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2003, 11:35:58 am »
a man with the power and money like saddam could probably disappear from the map, just as bin laden did. mb he doesnt want to leave though...
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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2003, 02:08:19 am »
i think saddam is an syria and i think osama is dead cuz there is a lil rumor that once a mans job is fulfilled in the al quida they kill themselves with honor and hands the reins to someone else and they think that rumor is pretty true Cool
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