1) did you somehow miss the fact that the first definition (the one using "oral") was for law, and that the second definition didn't use oral?  Those are two definitions, not one.  Use your dictionary maybe before you try to correct someone, dumbass.

2) "Nearly" being a very important word.  And there is a difference between engineering that on your own, and copying code.  

You'll notice, if you aren't a complete moron, that I didn't say that anyone was guilty of the violation, I said that a lawsuit is legit based on copyright infringement.  

3) I notice you still don't give out the who's, or mention the second case.  Is it that you don't really know, as you said you did?

4) You still can't and haven't defended your points about how it's wrong, you are just (wrongly) trying to correct my use of a word.  Weak.

My poetry, as should
Arouses a certain feeling
You think of it as flamebait
And shoot through the ceiling

Up into the sky, you shoot
With an amazing speed
Riding between planets
With my poem as steed

You ride far away
And from a relative point of view
I can tell, here from earth
I'm so bigger than you!

Perhaps after some distance
You find civilization
With technical advances
Like a cure for constipation

You see, cupcake
With that technique
You could prevent the shit
From showing when you speak

     Until you provide evidence for your claims, Ross, you're either a bullshitter or an out-and-out liar. Making an argument based on nonexistent evidence, as you have, doesn't prove anything.

Gee, and what did I say?  It's false if you can't provide it.  And you haven't.  Why?  

You haven't mentioned the 2 yet, in fact, you've only given the reason for 1.

You said that you know of them, but now you are saying you have to wait.  So, do you really "know" the facts?  Or are you just repeating inuendo?  

I know what it looks like to me.

As for flaming, because you've been acting like a dumbass, as I said in my previous post.  You make these leaps in logic like the fact that it takes effort for you to do it as designed EQUALS the fact that there is no choice.  Well, that's a huge gap.  And when it's pointed out, you ignore it.  

Your arguments sure seem based off a personal bias, and not any facts.  And I have absolutely no respect for that.

Yeah, by about 90 seconds before I posted that.  Ever think that they crossed over?  Another example on why I flame you.


Wrong.  An accusation like that is false until proven true.  

Otherwise, I could accuse you of being a "sperm gurgling butt whore that enjoys sucking the sperm out of homosexual's assholes", and it would be true until you proved it false.  I don't think that's the America I live in.

You made the accusation, it's on you to back it up.

That's why there's an edit button. You could also choose to retract your statements. By choosing not to it shows that your goal was only to attack me, which is what you've been showing all along.

I'm out until the ACLU or CCL responds, or until I find link and people who can support my claim that Evill has forced others out of his business area.


-Out-

If people have to result to insults just to prove their point, they've already lost the argument.
Anyways. I think a lot of the people are misinformed. Netfone does work with GameRanger when you're a premium user. Now, that being said, what Mr. Kevill is doing is not as immoral as you think.  GameRanger doesn't erase NetFone from your computer or anything like that. It just turns it off when GameRanger is in use. I think that's very fair, because it's not forcing people to buy Premium, it's just giving them incentive. The new In-Game Voice Communication thingamabob is a big selling point for Premium now. But, why buy the cow when the milk is free? All he's doing is milking that cow, and hiding those delicious bottles of milk in the barn until you buy the cow. Once you buy Premium, you can use either the GameRanger voice communication or NetFone. No one absolutely needs NetFone while they're running GameRanger. No one absolutely needs GameRanger to arrange a multiplayer game. They're just there to make things easier.
If you think about it, Haxial is "monopolizing" GameRanger. I'll use "monopolize" because everyone seems to be throwing that word around. They're offering a cheaper, better product, for voice communication, and GameRanger is trying desperately to keep up. You can almost say they're trying to muscle him out of the market, although unintentionally. Now, isn't that the same thing a few of you were saying about GameRanger and the other Macintosh game services? I see no difference. Also, I've never heard about Scott Kevill threatening to sue some teenagers because they were making a gaming service. How about some evidence? If he was threatening to sue them, they were probably blatantly ripping off GR or using some of his source code or something. Anyways, I think I'll leave Bucc and Loth to fight the good fight. They're better at this kinda stuff than I am.

Awww noooo come on don't stop!! KEEP GOING!!! this has been awesome.. I have never enjoyed reading posts on this forum till today.  

I have been glued to my seat for the last 2 hrs reading this tug-of-war.  I swear, everytime I clicked on the refresh button...PRESTO!! A NEW REPLY...I mean 3 people (Bucc, Ross & me...I'm sure others too) in this world at the SAME time have been sitting infront of their computers typing and reading on the same thread at the SAME time, WOW!!!

I kept thinking to myself, should I stay and read the next reply or go make popcorn and read with the best seat in the house...popcorn....read...popcorn...read.....

Man, was this thread intense  

ps. I have just reached 200 posts!!! I AM A FORUM WHORE!!!  

My friend Peter once wrote a poem that I think is entirely relevant to the situation.

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You came in second =P