Well, I agree with all but 3. I don't think a Fun ladder should be taken seriously, and this would be a blatant example of the opposite of "fun ladder." You might as well say GO at the start of the season and then the clan that plays the most wins.

hi everybody

about the request about the 3 points i have to agree in #1 and #3

But #2, no way. I dare all people thats talk BS about nade spaming to use a mmi.
I personally use one, and its my favorite in some maps, u want to know why ?
Cause mmi its anti spot campers, lot of camp killers get angry when they get blowed away. I dare them or anybody to use one. u will find its one of the weakest kits to use, u have to use a pistol and pray to kill someone with b4 he kill u, y i use it, cause i learned to take advantage of it. and i dont mean i'm indestructible, got killed a lot.

well i just wonder all those kids that cry every day , day after day about nade spaming if US or any other country will stop use mmi's mgl's or any think like that when enemy crys about.

I think the game has 4 types of soldier, and its intended to be fair for all. dont cry please, even some BT's used it.
 
Be mans.

Well I agree about the big maps ?sometimes it can be frustrating when you run a marathon trying to find someone and you only find someone too late when they put a bullet though your head.  Also FFA is about fun But some people (not to mention any names of course *cough* GS *cough*) like to get really competitive and serious about it all. Usually I find if I choose a map that I know people never play or seldom play, and then they have to change their usual camp spots. For example ?I know one guy that really likes creek bed, because it has lots of bushes and trees that he can sit in, and then when he kills one or two, he moves to the next camp bush. You change the map on this guy, to something without bushes or very few and it totally throws him off his game (from personal experience). Anyway I agree the big ass maps like what GS mentioned (-Embassy and Refinery) should be banned from FFA games. I still think medium sized maps, like Embassy are fine with 6-8 people anyway.


MMI, tends to lag a game, as does constant full-auto. As Koon mentioned, MMI is a magnificent tool for anti-camp pwning. Perhaps that?s another reason why GS wants it banned? Sorry GS, I?m just kidding (sort of).  Being from New Zealand ?a country so far away from most, I should be the first to complain about lag, but no- I?m used to lag and most will tell you that I play very well considering the amount of latency that I have to put up with. MMI doesn?t bother me and when someone else uses it, I don?t find it ?unplayable? at all. A LOT of people are using MMI now, I guess as another way to make top players and campers change their game plans, which of course I have seen them do. (as Harvey mentioned he did)

Also I think giving FFA player?s sheep to go towards their teams total on the team ladders is a bad, bad, bad, bad idea!!! Have you guys seen how many points the BT?s have on the FFA ladder?? I?m sorry, but that would be a sure win for them on all ladders, especially if it was done the way GS suggested.

Tigah  

Well, the first rule could be written so that there are map limitations with 4 players and not with 8. Though maps for 24 or more players should definatly be written out of the rules.

two: I agree.

Three: Not such a good idea, because as someone said before. Active FFA means win. Not all find the FFA amusing, and this should be a "fun for all" ladder....

Lol

" If you get shot by a camper twice, you have a pretty good idea about his position. Then you go to that position and empty your gun in his back...simple "

LoL, as others will know your position too, usually u get shot again cause is not a
1 vs 1, u run tryng to kill the sk'er then u got killed for the same or another going the  same spot.

DBL removed oicw cause "nade spaming",that gun has very good aim, fast nading gun(u can fire the 6 nades in the oicw in the time u fire only 2 using mmi)
Now some of u ask for remove mmi. i think is lame by u.
I'm pretty sure if i practice that m16 i will kick your F#$%^ button as i do with any other explosive kit in GhR. Then some ghei will say "BAN M16 cause nade spaming"

Some PPl in GR is a joke

not posting as BL Admin

My only real issue with the MM1 is the lag that it can cause - all hell breaks loose (especially if your a Euro on a westcoast US server etc..)

Personally i think the disadvantages of taking the gun greatly outway the Advantages and as long as i don't lag out of the game i don't mind it - its not even like anything near 5% of the FFA players are using it

Not pstoing as a BL admin

The diff in the M14/203 kit is that you have to reload the gl on it b4 you can fire again. And its not a bad kit to use.. The most kills i ever got in a single game was with that kit. Now the true test of a player is if they can overcome someone camping... Its not that hard and you dont always need to gl to do it.. The GL is the lazy mans way of getting it done (or better known as the noob way). What would be realy nice would be a fast action 10 round semi auto shotgun.

I like having up to 8 players.  8 players on a map like Stronghold or Ghost Town is heaven....although 8 on a map like Training is PURE Heaven.[/size]  

Actually, you didn't quite read in the sarcasm of my post about that.  What I'm really saying is BRING BACK THE OICW/GL.....I never used it myself, but everyone loves it.  Hope that clears it up for you.[/size]

I agree with some the suggestions above (not in order):

-  Change maximum players to 6
-  large maps are not bad, but certain maps have rediculus spawns, eg. Red Square, redo the large maps with FFA friendly spawns points?
-  if you ban the MMI, then take support with it. I played a FFA a few nights ago where someone had support with constant firing, laggy as hell.

The number 1 thing that needs changing is the FFA points system. No matter how good or bad you do, you never loose points. It become a numbers game based on total games played. I suggest that if you lose to a top ranked player, you earn zero points as is now, but if a top ranked player loses to someone lower ranked, then he should lose points, earn less points or some combination depends on a rank comparison. For example, if this system were used this season, we could all kick some GS-butt   and knock him down the ladder.

Lagtests - These should only be required if there was a point system where we lose points. Currently, if I lag and come in last, no big deal, I don't lose or gain points, but i have fun.

:MoD: Nomad