On a completely different note...

I notice that the |devil| clan has won a cb in the matchlist but has 0 on the ladder..

Dont know if its a bug or what...

Smiles! - J

Ok in the c| v |GM| cb. we belive lightwave glitchkilled noreaga on the stronghold map. I would like a bl admin to check the replay  its replay game # 6 ( i put 4 the first time sry) http://bobfromaccounting.kicks-ass.net/GMvsC.zip

you will see lightwave crawl up to top of incline. you will see noreage stnd up and then drop again. you will then see lightwave crawl down a little. then noreaga stands back up he shoots at lightwave but is only able to hit top of hill while lightwave is able to shoot noreaga.


p.s. we dont need alot of post on this issue like in other ones. just waiting for bl admins to check it and give word on it.

If you have used a glitch accidently because you didn't know about it and the other clan agrees to that you usually just have to replay the game in question with the same settings(map, gamemode, team color).

Mauti

No I didn't watch the replay after my first response. Now I did and I must say just repeat the game in question. From Lightwave's view it is really impossible to know that you are invincible at this location. That it is a glitch. Just repeat the game with the same settings and map and see if it changes the outcome.

@ Jedda: I understand your worries and concerns and I agree that cbs should be decided by skills and not rules. May you have a suggestion how to rewrite the rule to prevent such problems with sending the email too late!? About missing replays I'll continue to be strict in this issue. If some are missing that have been asked for the cb will be nullified or changed to a forfeit win simply because to press one button isn't that difficult. I also thinkt to send between 4 and 8 replays(1-5MB) within 10mins should be manageable with most connections.

Bye,

Mauti

To Acri, and others:  Glitching Defined?
 
     Remember that a 'glitch' is a glitch in the game program.  If you are in a house, and you are able to shoot through the wall, but your enemy still had no clue where you were, is that a glitch?  Of course it is.  The way I see glitching is that it gives you an advantage for making a kill, and an advantage from being killed.  Whether or not your enemy was aware of where you were does not matter.  What does matter is that you shouldn't have been able to make the kill, however, a glitch in the game provided for it.  Basically, if you know it's a glitch, or even if you suspect it, you should avoid it at all costs.  Even if you are just doing recon and you do not intend to fire, if an enemy becomes aware of you and fires without the kill, you would still be glitching.  I think there have been more than enough glitches pointed out in this game so that all should be aware and cautious at times.  But, accidents still happen.

In my own view, glitching should only be called glitching if you are killed by someone you can not fire back upon due to a program glitch, or if you are able to kill without being killed yourself.  I think it is complete BS when people say "well he didn't shoot at me at all, but man I unloaded a full clip into him!  He was glitching!"  Case in point:  Anyone can pretty much see anyone inside the hangers of Airbase when you are outside, depending on the angle at which you are looking at the building.  Just because I can see him, does that mean if my bullets do not hit him, he is glitching?  I don't think so.  Just find another way to kill that guy.  Now, if someone kills you, and your teammate fires back and is unable to kill him, such as the tower in Airbase, that is definitely a Glitch.

I'm not meaning to add drama to the above issues, but is my definition of glitching a universal one?  Is it shared by the admins?  I'm only asking because I thought glitching was pretty well known and looked for, and it amazes me that anyone would want to intentionally do it any longer.  I think these issues that we have had this season with glitching bring about the question; what is glitching?  Maybe I'm looking past it in the rules, but i don't think there is a clear definition, or even a simple one, in the rules.  Perhaps the admins could redefine it for us.

Thanks...

.::|N| Noto

*pokes aramarth.

Thx Mauti for the ruling

and in accordance w/ his ruling. i should be on l8r tonight around 7-830pm est. just get in touch w/ me then. and i will see you on the battle field. thx..Lee

BTW i just think it is funny that in this case its a clear ruleing that he glitched but you said replay the match. and in the BTs/SL case you gave them a win for a something that might not be a glitch...... just sems like contrasting rulings.I' m not tring to get the win b/c we will replay that game.. but the rulings need to be consistant!!!!!!!!! not ruled one way for one incident and another way for this incident whitch is a much more clear case of glitching.

Ok i dont know about all you guys but im sure the vets can vouche for me on this.... what is it that you dont do on stairs ? Thats it lay down....

Why?
Cuase it causes neet little glitches...

exhibt a

www.battleteksquad.com/files/lobNRG.jpg

Check the 2 bullet holes in where the stairs save his life...

They posted the cb... we asked to replay the map if we found a glitch... they say its not we say it is admins?

You might have to lighten the image to see the holes but they are there...

Hey eight,

     I don't know man, but it looks as if you can clearly hit some part of his body.  It looks as if 80% of his body is showing, which in my mind would be plenty hit.  You might not have been able to get a head shot, but there looks as if something could have been hit.  If you couldn't hit him in this position, there are one of two reasons why:

?    Reason 1:  This is a major glitch in the game.  I can't say i have ever seen a glitch to where the majority of the body was showing, and still not be able to be hit, other than the typical 'see through the wall' shit.

?    Reason 2:  No offense eight, but unless the replay shows little puffs of smoke, as if your bullets are hitting concrete but it is where his body is, then you're aim seems to be off.

I know there really isn't a reason for me to reply... but I was awake...

.::|N| Noto

Hey Horda,

     Check the definition for glitching.  I posted in this thread on the first page about it.  If no shots were fired, then what's the harm?  If anything he gave his position away, and also pinned himself.  You can easily reposition yourself; He cannot.  Advantage goes to you, but my personal view would say it's not a 'glitch' that helped him to kill you or a teammate.  There are way too many glitches in this game to call them all out.  We should probably just stick to the ones where the glitch is used for a tactical advantage in the way that shots are fired, and someone gets hit.

.::|N| Noto