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« on: December 06, 2004, 12:33:26 am »

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to thank ya'll for a solid tourney this weekend. it seemed to move smoothly and was a lot of fun to be a part of(counting out the obvious)

ggs all. looking forward to the next round.

cheers

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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2004, 12:36:47 am »

yep, looking forward to the next season. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2004, 01:53:52 am »

obvious?
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2004, 02:30:39 am »

oh damnit! you never write names right... it's z][t!

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2004, 07:01:28 am »

If something like American Nazis exist.. . you can find them in the *nRg clan. Great sportsmanship. Maybe simply jealous assholes.. . Check this out:

http://www.nrg-gamers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=327
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2004, 07:30:02 am »

it's their own forum, they can say what they want.
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2004, 10:06:06 am »

Zero tolerance by name, zero tolerance by nature Wink
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2004, 11:18:07 am »

Congratulations z][t (correct Civ ? Wink)
I'm sorry I could not be there this weekend.
I hope you all had fun.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2004, 12:04:56 pm »

Good games, good tourney, lots of fun.

Congrats z|t  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2004, 12:35:36 pm »

If something like American Nazis exist.. . you can find them in the *nRg clan. Great sportsmanship. Maybe simply jealous assholes.. . Check this out:

http://www.nrg-gamers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=327

hey now! calling anyone a nazi is something we should stay clear of. except for a nazi ofc.

and if the nrg guys have a beef with z][t( i doubt they do) oh no!!!! bloody hell!!! not another beef!!??!

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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2004, 01:23:20 pm »

Thanks all...we had two good fights yesterday with toX|c and BtS  Shocked


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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2004, 06:38:29 pm »

congrats z][t... on behalf of BTs we had fun in this tourney... well expect for a little waiting hehe but yeah things ran pretty smooth...
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2004, 11:33:21 pm »

american nazis. nice.

you are an ass clown of the first water jim davis. we are assholes for sure. and jimmy, for us to be jealous, we would have to take something seriously. and our on again off again love affair with z][t is more a joke at this point than bad blood. but it is the nazi comment that elevates you to the status of eminent supreme jackass - ruler of all jackasses, pope of jackassdom.

and what is your game ranger name, if you would be so kind as to share? i know i would like to know who you are.

the honorable ?jim davis? aside, i would like to offer my congratulations to the z][t fellas for winning the day. you guys are tough in a fight...
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2004, 09:08:21 pm »

Thanx for the congrats Kurtz. seems like all clans in the tourney had a good time.

weird how some people use the word nazi.  most of the time it seems like kids who dont really know what it means. or its history.  i was hosting a game the other day and a guy who cleverly called himself Hitler, came in and quickly left again.

there are just some things that should be respected and left as memories.

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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2004, 05:33:58 pm »

weird how some people use the word nazi.  most of the time it seems like kids who dont really know what it means. or its history.

there are just some things that should be respected and left as memories.

Okay, I don't want to get into a big Nazi debate here, but I would venture to say that Americans probably have a better grasp of who the Nazis were better than most Europeans.  You guys in Europe have a bad habit of trying to cover up your mistakes rather than face them.  Here in the United States, we study the history of Nazi Germany...you either know your history or you will forced to repeat it.  My wife tells me all the time that most of the books on Hitler and the Nazis that are available in the United States are banned in Germany and her home country of Austria.  Now how is banning part of your own history doing your people any good?  The major emphasis of my history studies for my History degree were World War II and Nazi Germany.  So, I have a VERY good grasp of what the Nazis were, who they were, and their crimes against humanity to name a few.  Now, what you in Europe tend to misunderstand is this:  When an American calls a Euro a "Nazi", they are not saying you are into murdering jews, torturing innocent people, or anything like that....they are using the "Dictatorship" mentality of the Nazis to describe you.  It would be like me calling a Russian I don't like a "Communist".  Well guess what, the fucking Communists killed more innocent people than Adolf Hitler ever DREAMED about killing.  Hitler doesn't hold a candle to Stalin.  So, would you in Europe feel better if Americans called you Communists instead of Nazis?  Because, realistically, you are heading more in the direction of Communism in your governments anyhow.  The first step is Socialism, and nearly all of your governments in Europe are already there.  So, Communism is right around the corner.

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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2004, 10:36:54 pm »

Just one obvious fact: the europeans experienced the nazi regieme first hand, for years. The US did not. I don't see how you can claim that the Americans "have a better grasp of who the nazi's were." Are you so blindly pro american that you must claim that the us has experienced atrocities that we havent, just to be better?
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2004, 11:03:11 pm »

I would argue with GS about that... but then this would have to be moved to general gossip. Funny how these feel good threads can so quickly degrade into Nazi/communism debates.
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2004, 09:26:58 pm »

I concur.




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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2004, 11:15:37 pm »

spike, if you read his post, you will see he was not claiming we have experienced the same atrocities. but your question does show your hand a bit.
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2004, 11:54:41 am »

the *DAMN staff would also like to thank all participating clans of the GhR tournament for playing. Except for hosting issues, we almost had no problems, and even those didn't exist long.

concerning this new nazi debate: I think we have discussed this for quite some time before the downtime. So if you want to say something that hasn't been already said, do it in the general gossip.

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