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Author Topic: A brief history of US Intelligence Failures  (Read 1733 times)
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2004, 10:22:53 pm »

kami they all happen to share something in common. going to war with america and allies, losing those wars and having the allies put forth massive rebuilding efforts and government changes afterwards. that was the comparison. the difference is the reason the wars were fought, fifty years and technology, such as the technolgy that got rid of the massive destruction that carpet bombing causes and so on.
they all have their differences, but when you look back at the last time america got involved in something like this you'd have to look at japan and germany, if not for comparison then as a guide. there are things that were done correctly and incorrectly in japan and germany, those lessons can be used in iraq. can they not kami?
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2004, 12:46:54 am »

as far as usama is concerned he totally dropped the ball when he turned down sudans offer to hand him over to clinton, just as they had done with Ilich Ram?rez S?nchez "the jackal" to the french. clinton turned down the deal. the deal that COULD have prevented 9/11.


Actually, a man named Mansoor Ijaz, a Pakistani-American, acted as a middleman between the U.S. and Sudan, in an attempt to broker a deal for Bin Laden. Former National Security Advisor, Sandy Berger only had to meet with Ijaz one time to determine that he was an unreliable freelancer, pursuing his own financial interest, as he had a huge stake in Sudanese oil.

Ijaz urged Berger to end sanctions on Sudan, and claimed Sudan was ready to hand over Bin Laden. The U.S. does not conduct diplomacy through self-appointed private individuals. When the U.S. talked to Sudan, there was no such offer. The U.S. pursued every lead and tried to negotiate, and nothing came of it.  

Ironically, Ijaz now has a job as foreign affairs analyst for the Fox News Channel.
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