Suggestion

[jn.loudnotes]

How about we just remove the delete feature and allow editing!  Problem solved.

Now, I know you're all shaking your heads and thinking I'm going somewhat batty, but this really would work.  See, one of the issues of deleting a post is that there's no longer any record of its existence. . .and it makes moderating come into question sometimes.  However, any time anyone edits one of their posts or someone elses, or even views it and hits "save". . .it shows up as "last edit by ____ on ____".

Thus, we'd know who had messed with a post - and if one were called into question, it'd be no real problem sorting out what happened.  Furthermore, if a thread owner wanted to delete a post, they could just remove the content and leave a message in its place.

Also, I still think it should be a limited power.  Perhaps board moderators would have an on/off button for each thread - if the thread grew completely off it's original topic - the moderators could take away the thread owner's control.

But ultimately, I think this is a good idea - that the thread owner should have at least some ability to help control the direction of the debate. . .especially when the thread is trying to be productive - ask a question, for example.

[The Ghost of Bondo]

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I think Loud just got the system figured out

Now we'd just have to see if it is at all possible.

[bronto]

Bronto,

That post was an attempt to get Bondo and/or Loudnotes to respond in a given way, to help me prove a point.  

That post was an attempt to show Typhy that flaming the shit out of someone is an immature way to get the mods attention on the subject, seeing as you could have just explained it in a single sentence instead of two paragraphs of deliberate insults.

[Typhy]

Loudnotes, you've earned a lot of respect from me, not because I agree with what you say, but because of the way that you carry yourself. You're able to make resepctful posts no matter what they're in response to. Your post is one of the best written posts I've seen in 4 years of posting in web boards. However, you still can't convince me.

The basic idea behind all this is sound. In theory, this would allow for more respectful debates, because whoever started the thread could more or less control how it went.

The problem with this, is that saddly, there are lots of people in this community, who simply can't handle themselves well enough to have moderational powers over any thread. I've shown multiple examples of what could, and will happen if this idea is applied.

It doesn't matter wether or not everyone knows that the post is changed. The point is, this system would allow people to control what others are able to say. While in some cases, it could help to avoid 'flame wars', more often, it would work the other way, and allow the topic starter to remove whatever he/she disagrees with.

[*DAMN Hazard]

The basic idea behind all this is sound. In theory, this would allow for more respectful debates, because whoever started the thread could more or less control how it went.

If someone is controlling the debate how is it a debate anymore? I mean someone proves you wrong and you can delete their post? I think you should just leave it to the General Gossip they do their job well. If you want a thread controlled that is what the "notify" button is for.

[|MP|Buccaneer]

The ability to moderate threads one starts would just lead to abuse, plain and simple.  It's already been abused by some moderators in the past, so thinking that the whole community could handle the responsibility is expecting too much.

Let the moderators do the moderating.  It's their job.  If they aren't doing it well, find others that will.  

But letting people have the power to edit or delete anything that they feel doesn't belong is just begging to be abused.  Just think, and after the first abuse, someone will just repost it in a thread of their own, that can't be touched by the other guy.  

Just think it through.

[Supernatural Pie]

I do believe that the moderators do a good job of modding, however, the reason I made this suggestion in the first place was because I felt that good threads were often simply locked just because someone had gone off target. I guess to sum up it would be fair to allow the moderators to be more free to delete posts which did not have any relevance to the thread. It is upsetting to see posts that have a good intent locked because some retard decided to screw around with everything.

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