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Question: Is Iraq a real threat?
Yes, an attack would be justified - 7 (24.1%)
No, it would destabilise the region even more - 11 (37.9%)
Yes, but only with the support of the United Nations - 11 (37.9%)
Total Voters: 25

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« Reply #60 on: September 29, 2002, 05:00:04 pm »

Sin I tip my hat to you on the briliance of your comment which implies that all countries are alike and that Other countries have done more shit to them then the US has. Brittain is a super power however they dont pick and prod, they arent greedy. We all know the #1 reason we are in the middle east is for oil thats greed not help. Maybe if we helped the people as opposed to trying to rob them blind it would help
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« Reply #61 on: September 30, 2002, 03:26:51 am »

why the fuck have we not taken over the middle east? PLZ theres a bunch of shit over there and we just need there oil, bomb the fuckers and take it all!
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« Reply #62 on: September 30, 2002, 03:48:50 am »

Dude... WTF... I laid out a hige post and no one even responds to it? Was it just so dumb a post just to respond to or too good that there was no counter? Either way we shoulds top the debate.

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« Reply #63 on: September 30, 2002, 12:59:25 pm »

Well Ben it was pretty long why not  summurize a bit eh? Now bush's countdown to war makes it like a game. He is such a damned imperialist! and the thing that scares me is half the country, like sin, supports him!
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« Reply #64 on: September 30, 2002, 09:14:27 pm »

I do believe that Saddam is making biological and chemical weapons and is hiding it from UN weapons inspectors. Its really stupid in a way for the inspectors to even be there. We all know Saddam will hide them and not let us find them. You all say an attack would just be plain stupid. Time is of the essence. Saddam's one crazy fuck. He tapes executions and watches them at the dinner table. What makes you think he won't want to pull a Hitler. I agree that we should at least have support from the UN. It only makes us look bad when we try to accomplish foreign objectives alone (without support).

Like sin?....If anything the democratic party is sin.
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« Reply #65 on: September 30, 2002, 10:15:54 pm »

See, that is the thing, I never said we shouldn't attack...I just said we should only attack when we have UN support.  Sin seems to both disagree on the need for the approval of the other nations of the world, and the difficulty in which we'll have to take over Iraq.
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« Reply #66 on: September 30, 2002, 11:03:35 pm »

Well, I'm going to jump right in without having read the other 4 pages. . . Grin

I think it's obvious to anyone that the U.S. could pretty effectively annihilate the government and/or territory and/or people of almost any and/or all the countries of the world.

After you've sorted through that rather broad statement, ask yourself the question I keep running into, "Why?"

Yes, as a superpower we have the capability to do whatever we see fit, but why do we see certain things the way we do?

I'm really very puzzled by the Bush administration's sudden vilification of Iraq.  I can't think of anything to defend that nation with, but so what?  Why should we attack them just because we can?

I won't go into any of the practical considerations of why wars are unnecessary, this one in particular even - I'm struggling with its justification.  And yes, any nation (such as the U.S.) that wishes the moral high ground needs justification.  Not just from the UN, but from its own people.

I'm wondering why our people aren't questioning this a little more closely.  The government claims Iraq is a huge threat to our national security, but I find that statement frankly preposterous.  See my first paragraph.  Is it not true that the US has the power to destroy any nation of the world??

And if so, is there then any legitimate threat against us?

This is just the tip of the iceberg. . .but before we start killing people, innocent or otherwise, we need a damn good reason.
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« Reply #67 on: September 30, 2002, 11:38:00 pm »

Yay JN! I'm completely of the same mind.

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« Reply #68 on: September 30, 2002, 11:55:26 pm »

I share a mind with Bondo / ben/ loudnotes


To blindly follow Bush as sin is suggesting is corrupted communism leading us undoubtedly to killing and marking my currently clean concenius
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« Reply #69 on: October 01, 2002, 12:05:53 am »

Sin an exciting new update which scratches the record of your "flawless" Uncle Sam




http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020930/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iraq_bioweapons_2
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