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[z][t-Rampage]

Quote from Jim davis

"If something like American Nazis exist.. . you can find them in the *nRg clan. Great sportsmanship. Maybe simply jealous assholes.. . Check this out:http://www.nrg-gamers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=327"
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Quote from z][t-Rampage

"weird how some people use the word nazi.? most of the time it seems like kids who dont really know what it means. or its history.

there are just some things that should be respected and left as memories."
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Quote from Ghostsniper

Okay, I don't want to get into a big Nazi debate here, but I would venture to say that Americans probably have a better grasp of who the Nazis were better than most Europeans.? You guys in Europe have a bad habit of trying to cover up your mistakes rather than face them.? Here in the United States, we study the history of Nazi Germany...you either know your history or you will forced to repeat it.? My wife tells me all the time that most of the books on Hitler and the Nazis that are available in the United States are banned in Germany and her home country of Austria.? Now how is banning part of your own history doing your people any good?? The major emphasis of my history studies for my History degree were World War II and Nazi Germany.? So, I have a VERY good grasp of what the Nazis were, who they were, and their crimes against humanity to name a few.? Now, what you in Europe tend to misunderstand is this:? When an American calls a Euro a "Nazi", they are not saying you are into murdering jews, torturing innocent people, or anything like that....they are using the "Dictatorship" mentality of the Nazis to describe you.? It would be like me calling a Russian I don't like a "Communist".? Well guess what, the fucking Communists killed more innocent people than Adolf Hitler ever DREAMED about killing.? Hitler doesn't hold a candle to Stalin.? So, would you in Europe feel better if Americans called you Communists instead of Nazis?? Because, realistically, you are heading more in the direction of Communism in your governments anyhow.? The first step is Socialism, and nearly all of your governments in Europe are already there.? So, Communism is right around the corner.

Peace.

-GhostSniper Out.

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GS
i didnt see your reply to my "thanx" post before today and i was a little surprised that this reply came from you. since you quoted me, you included me in your post and here is my reply.  Did u missunderstand my post? did u not understand that my post was pointed in the direction of Jim Davis and his ignorant post directed at nrg? and as far as i know - nrg are pretty much all american. yes they are a crazy gang on their forums, but there is no ill blood between us,thus my defending them. all in all i dont like ANYONE calling anyone a nazi. i dont care if its at a european or an american. therefore my reply to Jim Davis. and when u say -  "When an American calls a Euro a "Nazi" - i think you are a little mistaken. i think Jim is european and i think he's an ass. a young ignorant ass who should leave some things respected and left as memories.

and i cant help myself to reply to some of the other things you are talking about in your post m8. generalizing is something that i am not a big fan of. and talking about a bunch of european countries as one, is a little far fetched. same as when europeans say that all americans are stupid beacuse of an election they dont agree with. just silly. Being lucky enough to get the best of two worlds - i have american familiy and english family + i have lived as many years in both u.s and europe. knowing how the system works in both places, i really dont understand where you are looking at a dictator in europe.
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GS quote

"Now, what you in Europe tend to misunderstand is this:? When an American calls a Euro a "Nazi", they are not saying you are into murdering jews, torturing innocent people, or anything like that....they are using the "Dictatorship" mentality of the Nazis to describe you"
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are you then including  Tony Blair? who is pretty much supporting whatever america does. are you including all the countries that(with lesser numbers yes) followed the u.s to war? and are still at it with the u.s. Are the leaders of these countries dictators?Have you missed that Europe has become a smaller version of America? dude its like boston here lol. the difference between western countries is not that big anymore and the gap is closing. we pretty much watch the same tv shows and wear the same brand clothes. we drink the same coke and we smoke the same cigarettes. we even sit in front of the same macs.

But comparing communism to socialism is wacked. communism is a good theory - thats all it is. all people equal is a nice plan, but in no way possible.(china has too many problems) I "like" paying a little more in taxes, knowing that my doctors bill will pretty much be free. i know if my dad looses his job, he knows that he has paid his way for so many years, that he can relax untill he finds another job. i like that schools are either free or cheap and i like that my best m8's wife can take time off to be with her new born baby. Living in norway at the moment - its not really fair to compare to alot of other countries. being that the country is so rich. Even if i dont agree with alot of things that government here does, i do like the security. and no, there is no dictator here - just a priest who we dont see much of and dont really know what he's doing....well other than a football game now and then.


reading some of the posts in these forums over time, it feels to me that SOME americans think they are hated in europe and that the gap between us is huge. its not. Most of my m8s in europe are americans. some army ppl, some film ppl, and some hot chicks(jk). NONE of my friends have met any America bashing. nor have i on my travels around europe. not even during the election period. i have had some cool discussions. so for the people out there who think all europeans bash americans, you are so so wrong. unless you made an ass out of yourself and deserved it Other than that, Americans are welcomed in europe. in the europe i have seen.

And to the rest of your post on comparing who would have the better grasp on nazi germany. why even think about comparing something as horrible as that? so no, you wont get into a big nazi debate m8. there is none -  it should be respected and left as memories. not a contest between two continents.

yours

z][t-Rampage

[z][t-Neo]

As most of ya know. I am from germany. And u know what,. I dont care about ppl who call me Nazi, it just shows their low horrizont. I feel pitty for some ppl from the nRg clan cuz they called me a Nazi when i gave them a lil hint.

I am sorry for that shit my ppl did in WW2 but actually I wasnt alive so i couldnt try to change anything. I dont want to say that I am not responsible for that in a certain way. But c it from this way. What does it help you to call ppl from europe /germany nazis?
As i said. To me it shows low intelligence and especially that they have no knowledge about this time at all. Cuz only a stupid guy can act and talk that way some ppl did here.

[c| Lone-Wolf]

so no, you wont get into a big nazi debate m8. there is none -  it should be respected and left as memories.

Rampage.  
1) This doesnt belong in the GG, since it obviously didnt start here.  So dont take it here.  If the quotes from GS came from a thread somewhere else on the forums, then post your reply/criticisms there.  If it came from the MGL, post there.  If it came from GR. Surprise - talk about it there.  

2) Dont stir up an old issue that got a lot of people pissed off at each other.  The debate was already laid to rest a long time ago both on the *DAMN Forums (again, not in the GG) and on the MGL forums.  Let it be dead, and stay dead.

So, follow your own words which i quoted.  It should be respected and left as a memory.  This is going to be locked so we dont have further revitalization of something nobody enjoyed fighting about.  Rampage, or anybody else, if you feel this doesnt need to be locked and should be left open, send me a PM, or track me down on GameRanger.  

-Lone  



Edited - After seeing Neo's post (posted while i was typing)

Apparently this rekindling of the issue comes from something involving nRg.  If this is the case, my point still stands -dont bring it here-.  You say they've got a forum?  Well, great, go fight with peopleo over there about it, and where people can see what the full, or partially full, story is.  Because here, i frankly had no idea where both Rampage or Neo were comming from, or why, and im pretty sure the same can be said for other, un-involved people on these forums here.

-Lone (again)


Ok then, Edit #3 after being directed to the origin of this subject Version 2.0  Im still going to leave this locked.  The big reason still standing in light of Elandrion's final post on another part of the *DAMN forums: People have already brought about everything theyre going to bring to the table, and nothing new will come of this but just more people saying the same stuff.  Again, if anybody -desperately- needs to flame somebody else, PM me an extremely good reason you feel you need to comment, and we'll see what happens.

-Lone (hopefully for the last time in this thread)