Hijacking Catastrophe

[MacMan]

Why bother with the media? Nowadays it's so hard to know the truth from the lies, the mud-slinging from the news. Mass media has evolved from a means to know what's going on in the world, in service of the public, to a way by which political goals are pursued.
I do not know who is manipulating us, nor on what subject it is being done. All I need to know is that the independant media, are no longer independant. So how the hell can I know who to vote for, what groups to support, and what lies to believe? I can't. We can't.
How about just following our gut? I see GhostSniper is doing just that. Based on what he (sorry for referring to you this way) believes, and his best intelligence, he's supporting certain political parties, and groups. Fine, it's his opinion, and my may differ. So be it.

But that's what it all comes down isn't it? Opinion. If external information can no longer be trusted, and there is no easy way to get the information you need, your gut becomes the information source.

I know i don't know it all, but I try to make the world into what i think is best.
A better world starts with yourself. Make that better, and then you'll be right influencing people.

my 2 eurocents

[BFG]

What country in the Middle East is in violation of 69 U.N. Security Council Resolutions? Israel.

What country in the Middle East has racially discriminate land laws? Israel.

What country in the Middle East still carries on an illegal 37-year occupation? Israel.

What country in the Middle East has racially discriminate laws regarding water distribution? Israel.

What is the only country in the Middle East that refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and bars International Inspectors? Israel.

What country's military in the Middle East has had high-ranking officers admit publically that prisoners of war have summarily executed by it's forces? Israel.

What country in the Middle East's Prime Minister was found responsible by one of it's own courts for the Sabra and Shatilla massacres in Lebanon? Israel.

What country in the Middle East has a Prime Minister whose coalition government includes a party called Molodet which promotes Ethnic cleansing by calling for the forced expulsion of all Arabs from Palestine? Israel.


.... I guess thats part of the reson why i don't like the idea of them having Nukes.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

What country in the Middle East is in violation of 69 U.N. Security Council Resolutions? Israel.

Better list them for me, cause I don't think defending yourself should be a violation of anyone's resolutions, much less a corrupt institution like the UN.

What country in the Middle East has racially discriminate land laws? Israel.

Maybe if the Palestinians that live within the boarders of Israel were all law abiding citizens they wouldn't have to do that.

What country in the Middle East still carries on an illegal 37-year occupation? Israel.

Tell me how land you occupied after that country ATTACKED you is illegal?  Looks like Great Britain better hurry its ass up and give back Scotland.  Hell, at least Scotland didn't attack England first....England just went in there and took what they wanted.  And that isn't illegal?  There are HUNDREDS of other examples of this, but I like the Scotland/England one the best.

What country in the Middle East has racially discriminate laws regarding water distribution? Israel.

Better look back 2 above this one....same for this one.

What is the only country in the Middle East that refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and bars International Inspectors? Israel.

Seems they have the right to their privacy.  You didn't have JACK SHIT to say when Saddam threw the inspectors out of Iraq, did you???  Sounds like somebody needs to stop TWO-TIMING this audience.

What country's military in the Middle East has had high-ranking officers admit publically that prisoners of war have summarily executed by it's forces? Israel.

Where is your outrage at Iraq for executing our POWs?  Or at the terrorists for executing innocent civilians.  Or hell, even at Vietnam for torturing and murdering our POWs by the hundreds???  STOP TWO-TIMING THIS AUDIENCE!!!

What country in the Middle East's Prime Minister was found responsible by one of it's own courts for the Sabra and Shatilla massacres in Lebanon? Israel.

And what country in the Middle East would actually put its Prime Minister up for such an action?  What is the ONLY democratic government in the Middle East?  ISRAEL.

What country in the Middle East has a Prime Minister whose coalition government includes a party called Molodet which promotes Ethnic cleansing by calling for the forced expulsion of all Arabs from Palestine? Israel.

Again, if they would live peacefully within the boarders of Israel, they wouldn't have to go to those extremes.  I believe it was YOUR government most recently to fuck things up where Israel is concerned (remember 1948?).

.... I guess thats part of the reson why i don't like the idea of them having Nukes.

So, it doesn't bother me that they have nukes.  They are a country that will only use them if attacked.  And as history shows, they need that leverage just to keep from getting attacked by their sadistic, war-mongering, evill neighbors.  Neighbors that you would rather trust than a democracy.  Sorry, but your thinking where Israel is concerned is rather warped.