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« Reply #60 on: June 18, 2004, 05:48:21 am »
Personly I dont realy want Bush back.. but on the other hand .. I cant stand Kerry.. As much as i hate to say it.. when i get to the polls and I dont see a third party canadate that i like.... i will not be voting for the prez election.. due to the fact that i dont like either bush nor kerry.
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« Reply #61 on: June 18, 2004, 07:52:28 pm »
Harv's post brings back an old idea of mine.

Mandatory Voting.

I don't care whether such a scheme would help the Dems or the Repubs, but I do care about the opinions of other ppl. And by god if you live in America you better fucking vote. That's cornerstone of our freedom, and it's what so many have died to protect. Hell, vote for fucking Nader or whatever, tho it be a knife in the Dems back, as long as you vote.

Here's my mechanism: 10% total worth tax on everyone who doens't vote in every election. A two day federal/national holiday on "election days", where the election takes palce over those two days. Something like that.
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« Reply #62 on: June 18, 2004, 10:13:42 pm »
Why should somebody vote just because they have the right to?  Just because "we've fought long and hard for this right"?  Does it make sense for someone to vote, even if they don't want any of the candidates in office?  If everyone did this, how is it supporting the views of the people any more than if these people didn't vote at all?

Just my two cents.
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« Reply #63 on: June 18, 2004, 11:22:43 pm »
One of the reasons I get so worked up over voting is that I really appreciate what a Democracy represents -- it represents the voters, the people.

And I feel that in order that a nation under a Democratically elected government feel that their government is legitamate it needs participation.

It also dove-tails with the memes that attach to peoples arguments over whether someone's opinion matters or not, for this or that reason. If everyone is required to vote then we legitamize the opinion of every citizen - which is something of a beautiful idea. Whether or not I agree with the radicals, I still what to hear their voice. The whole notion of whether or not someone is a "true" patriot, for example, is expunged when you vote. Cause by voting you are a part of things. And I think that if you live in a democracy you better fucking be a part of things ... or leave.
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« Reply #64 on: June 18, 2004, 11:51:13 pm »
Here is a different take on things, Sixhits...

Maybe the very choice NOT to vote is a freedom we have all by itself.

But then if you are going to require everyone to vote, then I also think you should go one step further and require everyone to serve some time in the military:

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« Reply #65 on: June 18, 2004, 11:57:38 pm »
I don't think that serving time in the military is the only way to "preserve freedom."

By demanding your right to not serve time in the military, that is preserving freedom by claiming and demonstrating freedom.
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« Reply #66 on: June 19, 2004, 01:36:01 am »
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By demanding your right to not serve time in the military, that is preserving freedom by claiming and demonstrating freedom.

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« Reply #67 on: June 19, 2004, 08:39:39 am »
Quote from: BTs_GhostSniper on June 18, 2004, 11:51:13 pm
Here is a different take on things, Sixhits...

Maybe the very choice NOT to vote is a freedom we have all by itself.

But then if you are going to require everyone to vote, then I also think you should go one step further and require everyone to serve some time in the military:

"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation."

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The difference is, I'd argue, that we don't need everyone to serve in the military, while we do need to know everyone's civic opinion.
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« Reply #68 on: June 19, 2004, 12:31:30 pm »
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The difference is, I'd argue, that we don't need everyone to serve in the military, while we do need to know everyone's civic opinion.


That and last time i checked the US wasn't meant to be a Military State... althought the way things are going......
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« Reply #69 on: June 20, 2004, 04:58:50 am »
Nice thread GS.  The whole commune is out to take part.  Your Kerry/terrorist fanatical logic is much more effective than us leftists spreading more sensible information.  Will you please run for president too?

 
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« Reply #70 on: June 20, 2004, 06:27:25 am »
Quote from: Ssickboy on June 20, 2004, 04:58:50 am
Will you please run for president too?

Hell no.  It takes a real moron to WANT to be President!  lol

That has got to be the worst job in the world.
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« Reply #71 on: June 20, 2004, 03:18:32 pm »
Quote from: BTs_GhostSniper on June 20, 2004, 06:27:25 am
Hell no.  It takes a real moron to WANT to be President!

So Canada was right, Bush is a moron. Confirmed by his fellow Republicans.
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« Reply #72 on: June 20, 2004, 03:23:56 pm »
Quote from: -MP5-Mysterio on June 20, 2004, 03:18:32 pm
Quote from: BTs_GhostSniper on June 20, 2004, 06:27:25 am
Hell no.  It takes a real moron to WANT to be President!
So Canada was right, Bush is a moron. Confirmed by his fellow Republicans.

Not just him....I'd say every person who has wanted to be President since around 1900.  It's a god forsaken job where you can never please anybody, and where EVERYONE, friend and foe alike, will come to hate you at some point while you are President.
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« Reply #73 on: June 20, 2004, 03:27:48 pm »
Quote from: BTs_GhostSniper on June 20, 2004, 03:23:56 pm
Not just him....I'd say every person who has wanted to be President since around 1900.  It's a god forsaken job where you can never please anybody, and where EVERYONE, friend and foe alike, will come to hate you at some point while you are President.

So it's sort of like being the Game Ranger Sex Symbol. People always have periods of love/hate/love/hate every few months.
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