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Quote from: "Sixhits" on May 26, 2004, 11:52:52 pm
Quote from: alaric on May 26, 2004, 10:46:47 pm
Call me crazy, but I think this Chalabi guy just saved Bush the election. I fully expect this whole Iraq debacle to be pinned on Chalabi. Could you ask for a more perfect fall guy?
The only problem with this is that Chalabi is so closely linked to - and so heavily pushed by - the highest members of the Bush admin. From Cheny on down, just about everyone has mentioned Chalabi on the air. If they make Chalabi the fall guy what they are admitting to is incompetence. Dangerous, earthshattering incompetence.
As Bush says, fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. Fool me twice ... um, shame on, shame on you.
The logic train on Chalabi re: Bush's reelection is that this is a poison arrow through his reelection heart. It's a slow death, but a death none the less. No matter how they spin it, they were tricked, and having been tricked were repeatedly told they were tricked. Ignoring wise advise, they funded, followed and ultimately found themselves in the quagmire of Iraq due to this man. They were in fact willfully ignorant. A president who is willfully ignorant is not qualified to be president.
But then again, it's not like 33% of the nation is going to care. They'd vote for Satan if he was a card carrying Republican.
Specifically about the part where you mistated... "ultimately found themselves in the quagmire of Iraq due to this man." The admins' motivation to go to Iraq was well estbalished before Chilabi stepped forward to help. The US is caught in a Quagmire due to their own corruption and freakishness about the world around them. Chilabi provided the false excuse. The type of slimey guy (a "player") that us intelligent people learn to avoid like the plague. BUSH IS BAD KARMA. nuff said.
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I'm not so sure Ssick.
Chalabi is THE instigating force in making Iraq the number one priority. The modern neocon movement is based around Chalabi.
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Chilabi provided the false excuse.
thats just it. they allready had the intention and he was just another perfect piece to the jigsaw....
And now they can just play dumb ingorance and use him as a scapegoat... when they actually knew all along.
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The intention was emoted back in the early '90s. And guess who was the linch pin? Chalabi.
Guy, this is not really a chicken or the egg argument. The neocon movement has been linked to Chalabi since the very beginning. Chababli went to school with one of the founders of the movement and has kept in touch ever since. The basis for the "modern" neocon thrust into Iraq is Chabali as foreign exile. He is the chicken, in that sense, and the neocons have egg all over their face for it.
"While at Chicago, Chalabi met Albert Wohlstetter, an applied mathematician and one of the founders of the neoconservative movement. Wohlstetter introduced Chalabi to future movement leaders like Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz." That was 1969.
Below is one of the better articles, summing up pretty much everything.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/05/04/chalabi/print.html
There's another fly in this soup: what if all the bruhaha around Chalabi - specifically the raid on his house and the branding of his closest advisor as a spy - was a setup by the Pentagon (sic, the neocons) to distance him from the US and thus make him look more appetizing to the Iraqi people? I don't buy it. As crafty as the Cons think they are, they've proven themselves to be incompetent. And frankly I don't think the charges against Chalabi are flase.
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Fantastic article, sixhits. Another long read, but well worth it. It seems every day, if not every hour, we find out the rabbit hole goes a little bit deeper than we thought. How far till we reach bottom?
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I think this sums up where we are now:
"Washington, just weeks ago in the grip of neoconservative orthodoxy, absolute belief in Bush's inevitability and righteousness, is in the throes of being ripped apart by investigations. Things fall apart: the military, loyal and lumbering, betrayed and embittered; the general in the field, General Sanchez, disgraced and cashiered; the intelligence agencies abused and angry, their retired operatives plying their craft with the press corps, seeping dangerous truths; the press, hesitating and wobbly, investigating its own falsehoods; the neocons, publicly redoubling defence of their hero and deceiver Chalabi, privately squabbling, anxiously awaiting the footsteps of FBI agents; Colin Powell, once the most acclaimed man in America, embarked on an endless quest to restore his reputation, damaged above all by his failure of nerve; everyone in the line of fire motioning toward the chain of command, spiralling upwards and sideways, until the finger pointing in a phalanx is directed at the hollow crown."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1225688,00.html
But as you said, who knows where this will all go? (perhaps Bush thrown in jail, the Republican party broken like the ancient Whig party?) I can still dream, can't I?
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like the part were ghost calls Clinton close to satan.... its hard to come by raw ignorance, take a long look....
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And the story keeps getting better!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5123436/site/newsweek/
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One Bush administration official said that in addition to harboring suspicions that Chalabi had been leaking sensitive U.S. information to Iran both before and after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, some U.S. officials also believe that Chalabi had collected and maintained files of potentially damaging information on U.S. officials with whom he had or was going to interact for the purpose of influencing them. Some officials said that when Iraqi authorities raided Chalabi?s offices, one of the things American officials hoped they would look for was Chalabi?s cache of information he had gathered on Americans.
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I wonder who Chalabi has been blackmailing.
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