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« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2004, 09:22:02 am »

I just want to know how any person with any humanity can condone the acts of EITHER side. Are people that rapt up in their own shortsightedness or political spin that they believe this can be justified?

Nothing condones killing, let alone that of children.

If you think its fair to accept collateral damage, how would you feel if it was your child?
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« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2004, 11:25:45 am »

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No, they bend it for the EUROPEAN MARKET.? Man, the BBC has the worst spin around.? No, I take that back.....Those fucked-up Arab Networks have the WORST spin around.....lol

That was a joke yeah? BBC world service? European spin? Perhaps its just the shock of a world news service that dosn't give selective viewing for the american audience....
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« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2004, 11:27:02 pm »

Lone-Wolf - Great Reply.

a_Dingo - No one really condones, but since there is nothing that anyone can do about it, it's hard to take a stance.  It's like Abortion rights in America.  No one will touch it because both sides believe they are right, and no one would dare get in the middle of it.  LIke Lone-Wolf and I both said, it's been going on for almost 2,000 years and it's basically rooted in religious beliefs.  No peace accord or land settlement is going to work.  If anything, their conflict will resemble a perpetual machine of death.  Only a beginning; no end.

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« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2004, 05:29:51 am »

I have a lot more faith in modern civilization, call me stupid but look at the direction China and Iran are begining to head in.  With new comm. technology  a wave of new opinion will be rolling into control before you know it.  
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« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2004, 09:47:16 am »

I have a lot more faith in modern civilization, call me stupid but look at the direction China and Iran are begining to head in.  With new comm. technology  a wave of new opinion will be rolling into control before you know it.  

In a long term view, yah.

Ultimately freedom is only realized when their is freedom of information.
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« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2004, 01:09:25 pm »

But is it freedom when we cannot trust the information that we are presented?

Who believes what the media is playing about the middle east?

Who believes what the government is saying about torturing prisoners.

Just last night a question was asked of the USA secretary of state if he could confirm that the Australian detainees (ones that have NEVER fired against Americans or supported terrorism) had been tortured. He could not say they had not.

So is it freedom?
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« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2004, 04:08:38 pm »

omfg and im from palasitne but born in denmark plz dont kill me
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« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2004, 04:39:32 pm »

Ahh I see the Associated Press has been carrying on its totally biased and twisted and anti american news regarding Isreal and Iraq.

There isn't any footage that i didn't see of the israeli army not bulldozing the buildings and fields of palestinian farmers - the sorce of most of the fresh food in ramalah

They havn't got a video of the wedding that the americans didn't bomb in the country that isn't iraq. there is not any evidence of there being a wedding and it is all total fabrication. There are not witnessess including the AP who did not see the dead children and gusts at the wedding that didn't happen.

Good job none of this is happening isn't it Smiley hmm i better get my facts straight and go watch CNN lol.
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« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2004, 05:18:15 pm »

hmm i better get my facts straight and go watch CNN lol.

you might wanna try FOX, its even better !
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« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2004, 05:22:06 pm »

Oh really? Yes i did hear that it was a wonderfull, fully informed, unbiased and well regarded news network that served the US. I think ill start to ignore Reuters, AP and the BBCWS.

thanks bobby Wink
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« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2004, 08:19:18 pm »

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It doesnt matter whether get your information from the BBC, CNN, FOX, AP or Reuters, since you only pay attention to one side of the conflict anyways. No matter what the source, you will only see Israelis inflicting violence on Palestinians because that is what you choose to see. You choose not to see the violence palestinian extremists inflict on israeli civilians through suicide attacks and brush off the fact that it have gone down as a result of security measures like the wall/fence and incursions into gaza to destroy arms smuggling tunnels. You can get that information from the BBC, as much as from any of the american news networks.
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« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2004, 08:29:19 pm »


It doesnt matter whether get your information from the BBC, CNN, FOX, AP or Reuters,

it does matter because some media will systematically air 10 mn on an israeli attack and 1 mn on a palestinian suicide bomber, and some other media will do the opposite.

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« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2004, 08:37:30 pm »



it does matter because some media will systematically air 10 mn on an israeli attack and 1 mn on a palestinian suicide bomber, and some other media will do the opposite.


That is Very true..... But In this conflict I think both sides are in the wrong.. They both have attact civ's. and they both need to come to some kind of peacefull agreement.. but you know that the palistines wont as long as the israeli's have weapon (and even if they don't) and the same is true for the Isaeli's toward the palistines
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« Reply #53 on: May 25, 2004, 02:27:28 am »

I have a lot more faith in modern civilization, call me stupid but look at the direction China and Iran are begining to head in.  With new comm. technology  a wave of new opinion will be rolling into control before you know it.  

In a long term view, yah.

Ultimately freedom is only realized when their is freedom of information.

But is it freedom when we cannot trust the information that we are presented?

Who believes what the media is playing about the middle east?

There is quite a bit of TV in the middle east and a lot of it comes from the US from what I understand.  The influence that I'm talking about is the international POP influence on the teenagers and young adults.  These Kids in China and Iran are getting to an age where their open opinions are influencing policy.
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« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2004, 07:50:04 am »

as i am an palastine, i need 2 say something here :

wtf is ur problem harv, isreal no weapons? wtf do u think were throwing, we got rocks - Isreal has tanks big bombs and all piece of shit, and if they don't then America has do u even know how it is down there? no flames here but it was a stupid post from u that last one.


and the only ones from Palestine that has weapons is the Terrorist, Isreali is some animals without feelins (too).


no hard feelings for u harv, but it was quite bs that u just wrote.

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« Reply #55 on: May 25, 2004, 10:02:34 am »

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wtf is ur problem harv, isreal no weapons? wtf do u think were throwing, we got rocks - Isreal has tanks big bombs and all piece of shit, and if they don't then America has do u even know how it is down there? no flames here but it was a stupid post from u that last one.

I was not saying that one side does not have weapons and the other does not.. Im saying either side will not throw down there weapons even if they both agreees to (and as weapons.. im not just talking about guns .. im taling about bombs and whatever they use.. and they as in either side) Like I said.. I'm not for one side or the other.. If you were alittle older you would relise what I'm saying.
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palistines wont as long as the israeli's have weapon (and even if they don't) and the same is true for the Isaeli's toward the palistines
Im saying that neither side is going to drop there weapons

So how could It be BS.. every knows that neither side will give up there weapons b/c neither side trust the other side!!! Think B4 you type there stripes
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« Reply #56 on: May 25, 2004, 03:24:02 pm »

My god.....I just saw a post from a Danish-Palestinian and an American and neither one of them can speak English!

lol....Stripes & Harve!
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« Reply #57 on: May 25, 2004, 11:19:41 pm »

well.. It was 4am and I just got home from work.. so i was a little tired!!!..
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« Reply #58 on: May 25, 2004, 11:22:34 pm »

well.. It was 4am and I just got home from work.. so i was a little tired!!!..

Okay okay....you are forgiven!
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« Reply #59 on: May 26, 2004, 07:21:41 am »

i'm just stupid !=P


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